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cahilj
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 02:20 AM UTC
Well, I started my M1114. I don't have the MIG conversion yet, its still in the mail, so I'm doing what I can before it gets here. The M1114 interior has a few subtle differences than the M998, so I built a new doghouse, the HVAC duct on the dash, and some of the additional panels on the driver's side. I still have to work on the passenger side and cargo area. Pics-


I'm going to convert the doors to the new Frag 5 armor (I have plenty of styrene sheet and Zap a Gap :-) ), like this-


I also started on the Ibistek front bumper-


I think I may have figured out why there are fitment issues with the MIG AC unit on the rear cabin wall. The rear seats in the M1114 are actually farther forward than the M998 because the seat base is different. Since I don't have the kit here yet, I'm not able to measure where the AC unit is located, but it should be 18" +/- from the outside face of the truck. I don't know if thats the actual problem, but its my guess. :-)
trahe
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 02:30 AM UTC
James,

Lookin good. Keep us posted on your progress.

Stay low.
PacoBofarul
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 04:14 AM UTC
Wow, that picture itīs amazing!! Where did you get that??? Iīm interested in those versions&pictures. The front bumper that you made looks great. Please keep us informed with your progress!
Cheers
Paco
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 04:26 AM UTC

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Where did you get that???



I'm guessing in his temporarely backyard...

Keep us updated James!




(off-topic, funny how the humvee keeps getting heavier....)
USArmy2534
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 04:49 AM UTC

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I think I may have figured out why there are fitment issues with the MIG AC unit on the rear cabin wall. The rear seats in the M1114 are actually farther forward than the M998 because the seat base is different. Since I don't have the kit here yet, I'm not able to measure where the AC unit is located, but it should be 18" +/- from the outside face of the truck. I don't know if thats the actual problem, but its my guess. :-)



Well this is interesting. I really like what you've got so far and wish you luck in figuring out the rest.

Are those doors a new standard. I've recongized that lip in other pictures but I've never seen the thicker windows.

The seats in the Mig set are tall so the vertical fitting is also a problem. Using the Tamiya kit seat bases doesn't work. Also, the biggest problem with the AC panel is that it is angled, but the instructions are vague and don't show the angle nor is there a way to line it up. Its all in the eyeball so test fitting the seats and the panel is a must. This also affects the "leg room" of the seats. Given the way I was forced to install the seats, both the driver and left and right rear passengers do not allow for any way to fit figures (the driver is not so much that he can't fit his legs, but the steering wheel is practically touching the seat, so there is no way he can fit.

If you have any questions about kit talk to me or probably Pete for that matter since we are both building this model.

Stay safe.

Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 05:02 AM UTC
James, looks really good. No matter it is cramped in there!! Especially when you get your IBA and rack, weapon BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.. anyway keep your head down and I will be acrossed the pond soon enough!! can't wait to see the finished product.
troubble27
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 09:27 AM UTC
Your progress looks great! I really like how the front bumper is coming along. I assume your building the tubular style push bar on top? If so, dont forget the diamond plate on top. Keep us posted, cant wait to see the finished product.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 02:01 PM UTC
Hi....finally we have your photos!!!!many thanks!I'm waiting you to start one of my models....So now I can!!Can you say me dimensions of your front bumper...it looks very good!!!

Ciao

Ciro
cahilj
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Posted: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 10:33 PM UTC

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Are those doors a new standard. I've recongized that lip in other pictures but I've never seen the thicker windows.



Not yet. They're just being fielded now. There are alot of trucks still running around with the Interim level 5 kit (the other pics on Prime Portal), as well as some with the standard armor level.


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I will be acrossed the pond soon enough!! can't wait to see the finished product.



Look me up when you get here and you can see it in person


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Your progress looks great! I really like how the front bumper is coming along. I assume your building the tubular style push bar on top? If so, dont forget the diamond plate on top. Keep us posted, cant wait to see the finished product.




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Hi....finally we have your photos!!!!many thanks!I'm waiting you to start one of my models....So now I can!!Can you say me dimensions of your front bumper...it looks very good!!!

Ciao

Ciro



Yes, I'm building it with the tubular bars. My stash of styrene doesn't have any rod small enough diameter in it, so I need to acquire some to finish it. I have dimensions of it. I just talked to my roommate, hes going to do up a scale drawing for me (he likes the technical drawings, and hes bored :-) ), then I'll scan them and post it.

Theres actually quite a few people over here modelling. Its like a secret society :-)
cahilj
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 01:33 AM UTC
I finally got the MIG kit in the mail, along with a bunch of other resin and PE stuff I ordered.

The only real issue I had with the kit was that the roof was extremely thick and warped pretty badly. I tried to straighten it out, but it would have required some sectioning and bracing to keep it straight. I decided it was easier to modify the M1025 roof in the end. All I need to do now is add the two pieces of Frag 5 and the layer of standard armor to it.

Its also got the ProArt turret interior pieces, but I have yet to figure out how to scale the gear type rotating system.

I also got the MIG tires. Very nice. I've used the Blast tires on past models, but the MIG ones are much better. I added about 1 scale inch to each side of the truck behind the armor for the Frag 5 plating. Most of the bolts are in the same place, so it worked out nicely.


Did anyone else have an issue with the front doors not touching the windshield frame? I double checked the windshield angle, and the door is like 6 scale inches away at the top.
USArmy2534
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 01:47 AM UTC
Looking pretty good so far. Great job on modifying the roof. Out of curiosity, how detailed is your interior going to be?

I have a little bit of a problem with my doors. I knew though that I'd have to angle the windshield frame back a bit, mostly for the roof, but for the doors too. Its not too noticable in my case, but I don't know about yours.

Stay safe.

Jeff
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 05:08 PM UTC
Hi James,

I Too had problems with the warpage of the roof.
It was around where the gun ring .
I imersed in warm water and reshaped to correct size.
The doors need a lot of work.

Jeff,I scraped away excess with the std exacto No 11 blade around the rear passengers door recesses and compared the doors against the 1/35th scale plans that come with the concord publication.Humvees in Iraq.
Just a tad out of scale from the comparisons .
I also had problems with the instructions which come with the detail set.
The instructions are good but there should be more to help the modeller .

The concord book is Excellent book for references.But if your over there who needs a book.
The middle door pillar will also have to be adjusted by plasticard to get the doors to fit in the right spot .
I found that the seats in the back needed to be sanded back to have them fit against the vents on the rear wall.
The seats in the back looked a little overscale to fit in the original position of the standard tamiya seats.I sanded the rear side of my seats a little to have in the correct postion .
This gave me a small amount of room to fit someone in the back .

I did not have any problems fitting the Nemrod figure in the drivers postion .
I cut the hand away from the figure so you can modify after the steering wheel is in place .
As per the images in the kitmaker gallery.



I have corrected the Humvee with the tyres from feedback off ML and Jeff Edgar here at Armourama .
My special Thanks go to Jeff Edgar and Paco who is the designer for the M1114 for some very valuable info to do a correct humvee!!

Cheers
Michael


cahilj
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 05:22 PM UTC
Jeff-

I plan on the full radio, speakers, etc but I haven't decided if I want to add a BFT or MTS yet. The roof will be detailed too. I'm basically going for the "first mission after a good cleaning" look, so not too much dirt and crud.

Michael-

Thats where my issues were too. With the other plans I have for the model, I decided it was easier to adapt the kit roof, since it would be dead on.

Do you guys have threads for your builds?
USArmy2534
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 08:47 PM UTC
First WIP

Second WIP

Third WIP


Since Pete included his first WIP in my first thread, I'm including the link's to his other postings on his 1114.
Pete's WIP

Smoke grenade launchers

Another update

Correct BFT layout

Another update

Spare tire mount

New gunner's shield

I know its a lot of links, but it definitely should get you up to speed on the other builds going on. Enjoy.

Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:50 PM UTC
Very Nice.... I'm working on one that I used, but not as far along. We threw away the wading stacks as interfering with Vision and added the de riguer 40mm Ammo Box's to the turret sides. We also replaced the Blackout drive lights with M113 IR headlights for our Night Patrols.

On a side Note I watched someone hook a chain to a gate and the Ibistek Bumper for a breach, result 20 feet of wall, Gate and Bumper all laying on Ferris Wheel Road.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:06 PM UTC
Hi James


Here is mine.
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=89931&page=1

I am a newbie in transferring the web link but if this doesnt work it's in the
campaign folder on the second page


Cheers
Michael
cahilj
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 11:36 AM UTC
I've been on the road for the last few weeks, so I'm a bit behind. I checked out all the links you guys posted. Nice work!

I got one side of the the Frag 5 just about done-


And almost finished the Ibistek bumper-


I started with the underbody armor too. I'm waiting on the rest of my tools to get here from home. Hopefully its soon!
trahe
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 07:28 PM UTC
Looking good so far. Keep us posted. Stay low...
troubble27
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 08:08 PM UTC
Looking sweet! Keep up the good work. I like the front bumper. You should mold and cast that and put it for sale. At the moment, you would be the only person who has one or makes one. Come to think of it, I havent ever even seen one made before, and yours looks spot on!
USArmy2534
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 12:37 AM UTC

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Looking sweet! Keep up the good work. I like the front bumper. You should mold and cast that and put it for sale. At the moment, you would be the only person who has one or makes one. Come to think of it, I havent ever even seen one made before, and yours looks spot on!



So too the Frag 5 kit.

This is looking like you will have something unique.

Jeff
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 02:17 AM UTC
That is one sweet looking Humvee James. Looking forward to see more progress shots. From you signature I guess you have first hand knowledge to the vehicle. Keep us posted.

Erik
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 07:23 AM UTC
hi James,

nice work, especially given the crappy conditions of our current location (I'm over in Balad). Are you doing any of the current counter IED systems on your's as well? I have big plans for my kit when I go home in August, Frag5, updated turrent, BFT and Duke systems. Lord knows I'm armed to the teeth with reference pics!
cahilj
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Posted: Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 10:03 PM UTC
I'm still alive, just been pretty busy, no time recently to build


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hi James,

nice work, especially given the crappy conditions of our current location (I'm over in Balad). Are you doing any of the current counter IED systems on your's as well? I have big plans for my kit when I go home in August, Frag5, updated turrent, BFT and Duke systems. Lord knows I'm armed to the teeth with reference pics!



I plan on a Duke, but I still haven't decided on the BFT or not. I hear ya on the pics, I have a ton too! Shoot me an AKO email- james.w.cahill, I have some questions to ask you about my old stompin' grounds