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The Dora railgun diorama
Rab
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Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 07:42 PM UTC
Well fellas, I've just about finished the basic construction and am ready to start detailing. Fist off, I will strip everything off the base and add rock ballast then paint the ground. Next will be to add each subject, detailed.
Can anybody see or think of anything glaringly obvious thats missing or should not be there? I will be keeping the groundwork sparse and muddy (no trees, bushes ect) as the amount of heavy machinery moving around the area would have kept everything pretty chewed-up.








darreng
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 07:57 PM UTC
Hi Rab

How about a Kubelwagen for the photographer's, it's only a suggestion. And there's no motorcycle's in the column either.


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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 12:32 AM UTC
Holy schnikies that BIG.


Tons of ballast is all I can say about the groundwork. I would love to see more figures around the column, with such a sight and a large column there would be more figures.

Well done overall - love seeing this come together.
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 12:52 AM UTC
its only when you see pictures like this you fully realise how darn big this kit really is.

As Scott says it needs a few more figures, i would also like to see that ever it is that delivers the shells to site

keep up the good work

cheers

Keith
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 04:32 PM UTC
It'd need about 2000 figures more... (The full crew of that monstrosity.) I wish one was preserved. I'd be fun climbing up on it.

Really good diorama
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 04:51 PM UTC
Great job! that thing is massive! congrats. I would agree with the figures. it needs some more. and maybe a few more halftracks or trucks to kind of standardize the clolumn.

great job!
-Mike
Rab
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 05:11 PM UTC
Darren & Scott, I've taken your suggestions seriously and ordered a set of Dragon's Feldgendarmerie with dogs for guard duty, 4 more crew for the Dora, 10 more soldiers for the column, 5 high ranking officers being photographed in front of the gun, an Italeri KFz 15 Horch staff car and a BMW with side-car.

Mike, I've sort of run out of room in the column to add more of the larger vehicles, but yes, another truck carrying a heap of ammo crates and gear would have been nice.

.......... also remember, this base mates up against the Savastopol railhead dio and thats 'as busy as a one legged man in an ass kicking competition'.
f1matt
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 07:08 PM UTC
I still can hardly believe how big it is. How much paint did you use? The worlds stock of Panzer Gray must have taken a hit. Coming along great.
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:08 PM UTC
Hey mate,
Good job so far can't wait to see it with the ballast done.
I have just two comments to make;
1) I know you said about the vegetation but I would add some grass in between and around the tracks as very little traffic would disturb it here.
2) For me the panzer 1 command tank and the kettenkrad doesn't gel together very well, maybe lose the kettenkrad and add the ammo truck you wanted.
Good Luck
Robbo
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:56 AM UTC
"also remember, this base mates up against the Savastopol railhead dio and thats 'as busy as a one legged man in an ass kicking competition"

LAMO!!!! Thats Classic!!!
Fitz
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 01:36 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Darren & Scott, I've taken your suggestions seriously and ordered a set of Dragon's Feldgendarmerie with dogs for guard duty, 4 more crew for the Dora, 10 more soldiers for the column, 5 high ranking officers being photographed in front of the gun, an Italeri KFz 15 Horch staff car and a BMW with side-car.




The vehicles should be crammed with guys all staring at the thing in amazement.
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 02:25 AM UTC
That will be an awesome-looking dio when it's finished.

Hope you're not planning on moving house any time soon!!

My only (relatively minor) criticism is that I feel the whole thing as it stands is a bit too "linear" - in other words the vehicles are all in a nice straight line running more or less parallel to Dora.

I know you're making a convoy, but try parking a couple of vehicles off to the side and at angles to Dora.

But it's looking impressive, it really is.
Rab
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 02:58 AM UTC
The picture below added to #6 above, will give you some idea of the of the finished area when the two are together. So as you can see, it will look quite busy and I hope not too linear.
Mathew,
It took 10 tins of Humbrol Blue Grey mixed with 3 tins of Dark Grey to paint it.
Fitz
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 04:25 AM UTC

Quoted Text

The picture below added to #6 above, will give you some idea of the of the finished area when the two are together. So as you can see, it will look quite busy and I hope not too linear.



My fear is that with the Dora piece in place, one will not be able to see anything behind it. This is going to be one that requires a 360 walk-around to view.
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 06:47 PM UTC
Great looking and truly stunning diorama. I think the two dioramas will fit together well. However, as already mentioned you should allow for a 360 view of the finished diorama.

Thanks for sharing - looking forward to see more
f1matt
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 07:06 PM UTC
So how big is Dora? The kit I mean. Looks as big as a real gun! Is the main gun going to be operable?
Rab
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 07:53 PM UTC
It measures out to about 6 foot long and as for firing it, compressed air behind a wet wad of paper might work!
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 09:00 PM UTC
Darn, that's one giant guy there. I have a comment which is though small , paramount: when this guy fired it was on a curved track in order to be able to aim the beast. Also this track was sunken :

Oh yeah, just found a movie of the beast firing on Youtube, must have been made on Peenemünde proving grounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuW8gG8Hfg

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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 01:08 AM UTC
Wow!
You'll need a crew as large as Dora's to get that thing from show to show!

An interesting juxtaposition would have been some horse drawn artillery pieces in your convoy.

A far greater endeavor than most would undertake, my hat's off to you.

Cheers,
Charles
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 01:27 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Wow!
You'll need a crew as large as Dora's to get that thing from show to show!

An interesting juxtaposition would have been some horse drawn artillery pieces in your convoy.

A far greater endeavor than most would undertake, my hat's off to you.

Cheers,
Charles



That's not a bad idea at all. Much of the German army was still horse drawn of course and the Italeri (ex-ESCI) Horse Drawn Convoy along with the Tamiya Horse Drawn Field Kitchen strolling past this giant piece of motorized overkill would be amusing, historically accurate and offer an interesting commentary on the true state of mechanization in the German army.
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 06:14 AM UTC
Now the horses would be a very interesting contrast. There are also some mounted calvary troops, but I cannot rmember who makes those.

I love how it all looks thus far. Everytime I check the progres all I can say is "WOW".

With such a large set up it is hard to say how much is too much. But I love the progress so far.

But, horses would be just the ticket.

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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 06:18 AM UTC
It's big - alternatively you could have titled it 'House Extensions for Beginners'

Looking good though - keep the images coming!
Rab
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 07:04 PM UTC
Thanks Charles & Mark, I did toy with that idea but wasn't sure if a mechanized arty division mixed with a horse-drawn one. I have a put a horse-drawn field kitchen on the other half and came to the conclusion that I really suck at painting horses. I must have at least 10 of the beasts surounding my property, but still can not get the colouring right. I am still seriously thinking of adding a truck to the column, spent a lot of the day putting together the gear to fill it.
BTW. the dio will be 360 degree viewable.
Jim Rae, in Australia, we call house extensions "a shed" and I have one dedicated to display.
Here's a couple of photo's of the freshly laid ballast.

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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:14 PM UTC
Nice job so far on the big kit.

Any ideas on weathering it?

So you work or retired?

That shed looks mighty big also.

Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:46 PM UTC
All I can say is Wow! Keep the pictures coming...