I always wonder how the Grizzly compares to the M-88.....anyone have some thoughts?
i thought the recovery version of the vehicle was called a husky or something like that and the grizzly was more an MG armed transport. i don't know that there would be much of a fair comparison because it's wheeled vs. tracked. it's been over 30 years since i got out of the Army, but I remember the 88 had a main winch that could pull 90,000 + pounds 1:1 and the folding A frame crane could lift -again, this is ancient memory- 16,000 pounds with 4:1 rigged winch. It weighed 56 tons wet so there was a lot of weight to pull against when winching something.
a few of my more memorable experiences with an 88 included rescuing the command track version of an M113 APC that was sunk during deep water fording exercises. we also recovered a large bulldozer that went off an embankment into a lake one of the engineer battallions maintained. after getting it loaded on the transport, the driver tried to do a wide U turn on the same embankment and almost lost the truck trailer and dozer back into the lake. we towed him out. in Germany we had a call where a 109 was being transported on a trailer and hadn't been properly secured. the driver was going way too fast, came up on a tight S turn. the track shifted and came partially off the trailer pinnin down a jeep passing the other direction with the track. the jeep actually kept the 109 from coming completely off the trailer. we also had a fully loaded fuel tank trailer come uncoupled from its tractor and stuck its front support legs all the way into the ground. two 88s lifted the trailer back up so another tractor could back up and couple to it. as far as a display of sheer power we once towed a pair of M60s in from the field. it got a lot of looks. if the vehicle you mean is what i think it is, i don't think it would have been able to have pulled some of these off without help.
we used to clean the ranges once in awhile as well working with a DOD team which was intense. they would walk forward looking for dud rounds then creep us forward. when they found something we'd have to get out and go off some distance and lay behind a ridge or embankment while they moved the round. that was the one scary thing about an 88, sitting on 450 gallons of gasoline, umpteen gallons of hydraulic oil, plus the huge amount of oil in the motor and transmission.
the saddest mission ever was recovering a vehicle -i don't remember the designation but it may have been called GORE that the Army was getting around '75. they were about the size of road construction earthmover machines. they had really tall tires, well over 6 feet tall, the bodies were very wide and the nose was very steeply angled down to the front of the forward tire wheelwells. i remember seeing two versions, a tanker and a transport/cargo type. the side profile was completely flat. the crew sat up pretty high in them and as i recall they were visible from just above the waist up. when operating on pavement the truck would begin rocking front to rear and would almost look like it was going to start bouncing hard enough for the tires to leave the ground. the wreck we were called on had that exact thing happen. the bouncing caused the driver to lose control flipping it over onto its top after which it slid for some distance down the road. the driver and co driver were killed. there may have been a third crew member. once rigged the MPs made us stay buttoned up inside until they had cleared the bodies. the flat profile trapped them in the crew area like flies in a jar once it was upside down. it isn't hard to imagine the mess it made. that one still bothers me. at least they were exempted from traveling pavement unless absolutely necessary after that and restriced to very low speed. i'm not sure whatever they were that they even went into wide scale use. i never did see all that many of them and never saw one anyplace else other than that base. if anybody can remember what this vehicle was i wouldn't mind a memory jog about it.
so long way around there is no way to compare an 88 to a grizzly or husky or whatever they called it.
EDIT: sorry- i thought you meant an AVGP Grizzly and obviously you meant an M1 Grizzly which i have never seen in person.