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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Trumpeter Sd.Kfz. 7 Build
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 03:15 AM UTC
Bill,

Looks great! Can't wait to see the dio!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:48 AM UTC

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This really is one excellent piece of modelling.
Great build, great winterwash, great weathering.


Thank you, I'm very flattered by everyone's kind words.

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As far as the rust goes, I personally think it is overdone and should be toned down. I can even see rust on the rubber tracksblocks (right rear).


I am leaning in this direction, and everyone's comments are duely noted. The track blocks are rubberized, so they would not rust, but rusty-wash/run-off would likely stain them. I think I will rework this part, though. Sometimes what is logical isn't what looks logical.

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I too am looking forward to see your feature!


Everyone's praise will help fortify my courage for attempting this dio.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 08:01 PM UTC
This really is one excellent piece of modelling.
Great build, great winterwash, great weathering.
As far as the rust goes, I personally think it is overdone and should be toned down. I can even see rust on the rubber tracksblocks (right rear).
The amount and brightness do not do this, otherwise splendid, halftrack justice.
I too am looking forward to see your feature!
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 02:48 PM UTC

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How goes the build feature?


LOL, about as fast as the build itself.

I need to put the photos in a zip file and send 'em to you.

Lyndon, there's no comparison between the Trumpy and Tamiya kits, but in fairness to the latter, they're separated by 3 decades.

Rob, thanks, I may continue to tone down the rust a bit. Still experimenting. Now I need to get the 88 finished (all except the cables done over there), then build the dio.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 01:46 PM UTC
WOW... totally awsome, one of the finest winter schemes i've seen in a while. The rust does stand out a bit in the pics but that's normal so no minus points taken away. I can't wait to see the dio Bill.

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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 01:25 PM UTC
Hi Bill that build is going great i sooo want this kit i've got all of the old tamiya variants but the trumpeter version frpm what i've read blows the tamiya ones out of the water hopefully my LHS will be getting some stock in soon fingers crossed on that
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 01:23 PM UTC
How goes the build feature?
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:29 AM UTC
Thank you, Mobious, Jim and Pawel.

I applied Tamiya German Gray, then a MIG filter followed by MIG Faded German Gray pigment before applying Future or Acryllic sealer (can't remember which, as I was switching over to Future at that point). Then put on a coating of hairspray followed by the Winter whitewash with an airbrush. After drying, I used an old toothbrush to chip away the whitewash (the time of the dio is late Winter after a fresh snowfall, but before the Spring thaw).

Accomplishing that project ended up removing the compartment doors, despite my best care. I don't think I would build this vehicle again with those doors open.

After that, I applied a mix of MIG acrylic resin, acrylic paint, plaster of Paris and a little water to make the mud splatter. I put dabs of paint in different parts of the "mud" mix so I ended up with mud of differing colors. Then it was some pigments, which look much brighter in the photos (the rust really jumps out).
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:13 AM UTC
that's a fantastic finish Bill! The chipping of the white paint looks just great. Which technique did you use if I may ask? Outstanding job.

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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:00 AM UTC
very nice
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 05:25 AM UTC
Hey billC, The worn whitewash looks fantastic. Very well executed. The weathering is a bit heavy for my taste, but that's just me. I never weather enough to suit most. Having the hood opened for repair is a great idea to showcase the level of detailing. It's been a while but worth the wait. I haven't even started my SdKfz. 7 yet. Got caught up in several other projects.
Glad to see the update. Looks great and will be looking for the dio "soon"?
Mobious
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:43 AM UTC
Wow, I'm sure most of y'all had given up on me, and I wouldn't blame the Staff here if they never gave me another review kit to build, but DAMN! this baby was a bear to finish! Part of the reason was the very complex weathering schema I took on: mid-Winter, Eastern Front, dried mud on the vehicle, but snow everywhere else. It's too damned cold to touch up the rust and the thing has broken down, giving me a chance to expose the engine detail while having two figures working on it while the FLAK 36 it is towing works nearby (diorama to follow).

In general, this was one of the finest kits I've had the pleasure to build. Tons of detailing, as much or more than you could want, with not need for any AM PE (interesting that as far as I can see, none of the PE manufacturers have rushed out any supplement, because there really isn't a need for any). There are a few late challenges including the plastic tracks, I think I would go for Friuls if I build this kit again (and I plan to, next time with a DAK paint scheme). I lost one of the "driver knows" poles, so I went with it and figured those babies could be knocked off and the crew would just go with it as well. I may add some gear on the rear, but this one's pretty much ready for the dio.

Here she is with the engine bonnet removed:




Engine detailing up close:







A full set of water and gas jerrycans:





The plastic tracks looked like metal by the time I finished with the non-buffing metalizer (would use the buffing kind next time, the color is better):







The MIG pigments and mud recipe worked fine; the tires are R&J AM resin snow tires:



Finally the rifle racks up close:



That pretty much sums up this build. I will start a separate blog for the dio, and should have the photos of the accompanying 88 finished in a few days (weathering done, just need some proper gauge insulated wire for the connector cables).
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 06:54 AM UTC
Thank you both. I will be gone for a week, but will finish the whitewash and put on the tracks when I return. Stay tuned!
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 06:24 AM UTC
Looks good so far, what an impressive vehicle this is ! G.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 06:06 AM UTC
I must say that this build is looking really good!
Thanks for the in-depth way of showing it to us.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 04:51 AM UTC

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Isn't the SdKfz only built by Kraus-Maffei?


I'm glad you asked, Herbert. It was originally built by Krauss-Maffei in Munich, and the vehicle early on had KM designations. But as war production ramped up, it was later built by Borgward (in Bremen) and Sauerwerken (in Vienna).

Someone else asked earlier in the thread what differentiates an early model (like the Trump) from a later version. Apparently during the war, the rear portion of the vehicle was crafted from wood to conserve metal. Germany used wooden cabs on several vehicles, and even sweated up coal-gas power plants due to the petroleum shortage after the Ploesti oil fields in Rumania were first bombed and then overrun by the Red Army.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 03:37 AM UTC

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Thomas--

What Herbert said....

The 7 is the most-famous and most-produced prime mover of the Wehrmacht. The 8, for example, cries out for a kit, too, as it was used to haul the sFH 18. The 9 (known as the FAMO because, unlike most half-tracks, it was built by only one manufacturer) is well-known because Tamiya has a kit that is well-done from what I can see and which sells pretty well. But it was mostly for tank recovery and often sported a crane.

In terms of hauling guns of various sizes, the 7 was the usual choice.



Isn't the SdKfz only built by Kraus-Maffei?
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
Thomas--

What Herbert said....

The 7 is the most-famous and most-produced prime mover of the Wehrmacht. The 8, for example, cries out for a kit, too, as it was used to haul the sFH 18. The 9 (known as the FAMO because, unlike most half-tracks, it was built by only one manufacturer) is well-known because Tamiya has a kit that is well-done from what I can see and which sells pretty well. But it was mostly for tank recovery and often sported a crane.

In terms of hauling guns of various sizes, the 7 was the usual choice.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 02:37 AM UTC

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Great build log Bill C.

Is the Sd.kfz 7 the middle brother of these types of halftrack?

i´ve recently myself built the sd.kfz 11 from AFV Club and that one is obviously smaller and the big mama is of course the Famo... but there´s not lot of information on the Internet about them.

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Sort of. You have the SdKfz 7, the SdKfz 8 and SdKfz 9 (FAMO) which progressively can haul more tons.

The SdKfz 11 is the unarmoured version of the SdKfz 251 and was not a towing vehicle for recovery or heavy stuff, but more like a mobile small artilery unit.
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Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 - 02:20 AM UTC
Great build log Bill C.

Is the Sd.kfz 7 the middle brother of these types of halftrack?

i´ve recently myself built the sd.kfz 11 from AFV Club and that one is obviously smaller and the big mama is of course the Famo... but there´s not lot of information on the Internet about them.

regards
Thomas
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 04:12 AM UTC

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Something about them pics feels really 30's-40's. Nice job!


The kit does an excellent job of capturing the coachwork of the midwar vehicles like the Dusenberg and Mercedes. The term "German engineering" isn't a cliche for nothing: the Sd.Kfz. 7 had the same quality of build you would expect from any German car today.
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2008 - 12:08 PM UTC
Something about them pics feels really 30's-40's. Nice job!
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2008 - 10:19 AM UTC
OK, here it is painted and hairsprayed, before the whitewash goes on:









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Posted: Monday, September 15, 2008 - 10:59 PM UTC

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Whew, Steve, you're making me work!


Sorry, Bill that was not my intention! Thanks for taking time out to answer my idiot questions anyway. Looking carefully at the photos you posted at the top of the page, they seem to support the track direction shown by Trumpeter, but that may be because they are photos of the vehicle they based the model on!
It starts to look as though the "early" on the kit box belongs with the Tamiya "Hanomag" description, artistic licence!
On a lighter note, how are you going to paint the gearbox? I've left my kit in sub-assemblies so far, as the chassis parts are going to be very hard to get at with the superstructure on. Of course I'm intending a three colour scheme on mine, so the black gearbox etc will stand out even after weathering (if you look underneath!).
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Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hello Bill_C,
Was planning on the Kfz7 towing the sFH18 150mm. Would still enjoy the build, have the DML 88mm in the stash.
Bill, it takes more than a kit to make it interesting. Give credit where credit is due...You deserve a bit more than you think.
Best Regards,