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Eduard Dual Combo Fok.Dr.I
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 05:47 AM UTC

Eduard has released their Dual Combo kit #8161. This last Dual Combo edition is what we will look at here. Note some of the parts are for either the F.I pre-production triplanes or the Dr.I main production triplanes. The kit profiles are aimed at production types.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 08:18 AM UTC
Here is a link for future reference on some profile notes.
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 09:08 AM UTC
Nice one Stephen!

Ohh my goodness! The Review's part-illustrated with pics of my build! It's an evil ploy to get me to finish it!

I'll be up at RAF Hendon tomorrow helping behind the scenes but, all being well, I'll get start to sifting through the debris of my workbench on Bank Holiday Monday...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 09:21 AM UTC

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Nice one Stephen! Ohh my goodness! The Review's part-illustrated with pics of my build! It's an evil ploy to get me to finish it! . . . All the best Rowan



Why yes it is . . .you are front page and sitting pretty.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 09:38 PM UTC
Oh yez! Oh yez! Oh yez!

Greetings Gentle folk of the Early Aviation Title! We have had a wonderful addition to this review. The master modeler himself Wojtek Fagja has given permission for his images to be posted here in! Gadzooks and Hot Marimba! Its time to go make some moogy!

Dual Combo revised review!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 09:56 PM UTC
I'll offer a free download from my website for the first Aeroscale member to identify the readout plate on the Dr.I ammunition box and explain its purpose on the real aircraft.

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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 12:18 PM UTC

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I'll offer a free download from my website for the first Aeroscale member to identify the readout plate on the Dr.I ammunition box and explain its purpose on the real aircraft.




The PE represents the compass Steuethertabelle, or deviationcard. The aircraft was placed on a platform with known magnetic headings, as much deviation as possible was removed by placing magnets into slots below the compass. As not all deviation could be removed the amount of deviation was recorded on the card so the pilot could steer the correct course.
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PS: Thanks Alex Imrie
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Posted: Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 06:56 PM UTC
And he didn't even break a sweat! PM me Rick you get a free download.
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Posted: Friday, November 27, 2009 - 06:16 PM UTC
Eduard's November 2009 newsletter promises a re-release of the sold out Fokker Dr.I Combo kit #8161



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Posted: Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 10:12 AM UTC

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Eduard's November 2009 newsletter promises a re-release of the sold out Fokker Dr.I Combo kit #8161







The day after Christmas a parcel arrived including the extensive Eduard Combo kit #8161!
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Posted: Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 03:18 PM UTC
Stephen,
Nice to see this re-release of this kit as it does represent a great value! By the way Internet Modeler just updated a couple of days ago with my build review of th original release. Just for the record I used the pre release Gunsight Graphics Streaking decals. I like the results.
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Posted: Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 04:54 PM UTC

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Stephen,
Nice to see this re-release of this kit as it does represent a great value! By the way Internet Modeler just updated a couple of days ago with my build review of th original release. Just for the record I used the pre release Gunsight Graphics Streaking decals. I like the results.
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Excellent Rick! I plan on a build log (here) of this kit in the very near future.
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Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 01:53 PM UTC
Steve:

I found your review to be extremely helpful.

One question: You mention that the profile on page 15 has one problem. There was a black band behind the cowl, extending to the forward edge of the middle wing.

Do you know if that band went completely around the fuselage, including the bottom?

Thanks, and keep up the outstanding work!

Charlie
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Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 01:54 PM UTC
Stephen:

I think I used the incorrect name in my previous post... Stephen, not Steve!

My apology.

Charlie
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Posted: Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 03:31 PM UTC

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Stephen:

I found your review to be extremely helpful.

One question: You mention that the profile on page 15 has one problem. There was a black band behind the cowl, extending to the forward edge of the middle wing.

Do you know if that band went completely around the fuselage, including the bottom?

Thanks, and keep up the outstanding work!

Charlie



Thanks Charlie,

The black band I was speaking about was on the fuselage vertical sides and the upper deck. It did not continue to the chin pan area. These upper surfaces were areas that got a good amount of the castor oil exhaust and had to be sanded down and repainted during maintenance intervals.

"Fokker Dr.I 404/17 . . .The problems with this profile are there is a black band behind the white cowl that stops at the leading edge of the middle wing. Also there should be a Morrell Anemometer on the pilot's left upper interplane strut. This is an air speed incicator that is attached to the strut. The Eduard Fokker D.VII kit has these. . . "
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Posted: Friday, February 05, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
Will be watching this space Stephen , always loved your builds on the Dr.1's and this should take you over the 40 mark ( not in years , your still young at heart ) Will be interesting to see which marking options you choose for this run of Fokkers
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:34 PM UTC
Stephen:

One more question (at least for now!):

On page 11... the area behind the fuselage insignia.. what color might it be? The area on the top wing is called out as Olive Drab, but I can't tell what the fuselage is. Doesn't appear to be the same shade as the wing panel, but as you pointed out the Eduard color references leave a bit to be desired. My guess right now is Doped Linen... but that is a rookie guessing.

I have applied the black band on the Tutschek plane.. thanks for the correction and follow on information.

Regards,

Charlie
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 03:30 AM UTC
The rear of 404/17 is black.

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". . .Hauptmann Ritter (knight) Adolf von Tutschek.
This machine was received on 10 Jan. 1918. Originally it was tested with a Goebel Goe. III. An experimental rotary motor that ranged from 145 - 160hp. By the time it got to Jasta 12 is was equipped with the standard 120hp Oberursel Ur.II. The black band behind the cowl went from narrow to a wider version as the service life lengthened.



After graduating from the Royal Bavarian Cadet School, von Tutschek's joined the 3rd Bayerischen Infantry Regiment in 1910. During the war, he distinguished himself in combat while serving in France and on the Eastern Front. Severely wounded during a gas attack at Verdun (his second wound of the war), von Tutschek was ill for months. When he recovered, he transferred to the German Air Service.

After pilot training, served as a two-seater pilot with FA 6. On 25 January 1917, he was assigned to Jasta Boelcke as a scout pilot. Having scored three victories with this unit, he was given command of Jasta 12 on 28 April 1917.

On 11 August 1917, von Tutschek was badly wounded in the right shoulder when his black-tailed Albatros D.V was shot down by Charles Booker of 8 Naval Squadron. Out of action for six months, he wrote his memoirs while recovering: Sturme and Luftsiege (storm and Air Combats).

On 1 February 1918, von Tutschek was given command of Jagdgeschwader II. Mid-morning on 15 March 1918, the triplanes of JG II tangled with the Royal Flying Corps near Brancourt. Tutscheck was killed when his Fokker Dr.I (404/17) was shot down by an S.E.5a flown by South African ace Lt. Harold Redler of RFC 24 Squadron.

When his body was recovered the linen hankerchef that was knotted through a button hole in his flight suit was still tucked in place. This was used to wipe his goggles off during combat. (from the rotary castor oil exhaust). Hauptmann von Tutschek was hit before he knew he was being engaged.

The problems with this profile are there is a black band behind the white cowl that stops at the leading edge of the middle wing. Also there should be a Morrell Anemometer on the pilot's left upper interplane strut. This is an air speed incicator that is attached to the strut. The Eduard Fokker D.VII kit has these. . ."
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 09:54 AM UTC
Stephen:

As the kids would say: "my bad"!

I mentioned two different aircraft in my previous post... I commented at the end about adding the black band to the Tutschek aircraft as you had responded a week ago, and I believe that comment lead to some confusion.

My new question was in reference to Steinhauser's plane. In the Eduard instructions the area behind the national insignia on the fuselage is not oil stained. The color is slightly different than the "Olive Drab" panels they show on the upper wings. I was wondering if it was doped linen, olive drab, or some other color.

Thanks again for your help. I have three Fokkers on the bench right now.. one nearly finished and two not far off.

Regards,

Charlie
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:19 AM UTC
That would be the Fokker streaked camo. Olive streaked over CDL.
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:27 PM UTC

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"Stephen: . . .My new question was in reference to Steinhauser's plane. In the Eduard instructions the area behind the national insignia on the fuselage is not oil stained. The color is slightly different than the "Olive Drab" panels they show on the upper wings. I was wondering if it was doped linen, olive drab, or some other color. . . Charlie"



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