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M577 Tent dimensions
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:06 AM UTC
The M577 Armored command post is equiped with a tent attachabel to the rear. Judging from the Tamiya kit this tent had four posts but three overhead bars to support/raise the roof. Some questions:

+ What are the dimensions of the tent
+ How many posts and overhead bars
+ Is there a diagram of the tent somewhere

Thanks in advance,

Michael
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:34 AM UTC
Hi
You should find what you're looking in TM-10-5410-229-13P about the Modular Command Post System (MCPS). I think it's the one used with the M577. The TM includes some dimensions and several drawings like this one :



You can find this TM on Tpub.com

You'll find some information on warfighter.dla.mil as well...

HTH
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 02:44 AM UTC
That looks about right. Thanks
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 04:07 AM UTC
The diagram you show must be a change from the one I recall. What time period are you placing the M577 in...Vietnam, Cold War, Gulf War I? Gino can tell you much more than I recall, but the Vietnam era extension is a canvas contraption that rolls unto the rear of the 577 when not in use, the poles and cross members are also stored there. When elongated (I seem to recall) the canvas is supported by three cross members a front, middle and rear. They are the width of the track itself. Each is held up by an upright I would spit ball the distance between the poles is probably about five feet. The canvas is as tall as the track. The door is an integral part of the extension not as shown in the diagram. The diagram might be what they use today, once again the guy most up on it is Gino.
Hope this helps and that others will chime in...my recollections are dated.
DJ
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 05:21 AM UTC
I agree with you DJ. Maybe this one has superseded the one that was previously used with the M577 (as depicted in Tamiya's kit)...I'd like to know as well !
PS : I've corrected the link to Tpub.com

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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:16 AM UTC
Yes, the one pictured is the current tent extension. It is called a SICPS (Sick-Ups, Standard Integrated Command Post System). It has a lightweight telescopic frame and the sides all velcro and zipper on/off to allow mutiple configurations and layouts by combining them. They were introduced in the mid-'90s. Some units still had the older canvas extensions until at least 2000 though. The Battery HQ tracks in Korea still had them when I was there then.
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:20 AM UTC
Thanks once again Gino !
Here are some used during ODS :

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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 07:25 AM UTC

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Yes, the one pictured is the current tent extension. It is called a SICPS (Sick-Ups, Standard Integrated Command Post System). It has a lightweight telescopic frame and the sides all velcro and zipper on/off to allow mutiple configurations and layouts by combining them. They were introduced in the mid-'90s. Some units still had the older canvas extensions until at least 2000 though. The Battery HQ tracks in Korea still had them when I was there then.



Gino-- am I on the right track by saying the distance between the cross member parts is about five feet? Or, is longer?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 08:06 AM UTC
5 feet sounds about right. Measuring the Tamiya M577 poles, each section measures out to about 7.5 feet.

Here is a picture of the older canvas style.


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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 08:12 AM UTC
According to the TM, the wall (#2 on the drawing above ) is approximately 126" wide x 8 high, and the floor (#8) is a 12'8" square.

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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 08:22 AM UTC
Yes, the SICPS is more square than the older canvas extension. You can see in the picture I attached that it is not a square, but a rectangle and about as long as the M577 is.
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:13 PM UTC

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5 feet sounds about right. Measuring the Tamiya M577 poles, each section measures out to about 7.5 feet.

Here is a picture of the older canvas style.





Gino-- the photo looks like an open house day in Germany.
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 06:02 PM UTC
No dimensions but here's the assembly process:







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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:27 AM UTC
Paul-- great find.
DJ

PS-- it looks so simple in the diagram, try doing it in a rain or wind storm....
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 01:09 AM UTC
For all who care...there s a m577's tent attachment in 1/35 available as 3d print-out since a few days... it looks really nice but it s not cheap ..
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 01:13 AM UTC

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For all who care...there s a m577's tent attachment in 1/35 available as 3d print-out since a few days... it looks really nice but it s not cheap ..



Do you have a link to it?
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 04:01 AM UTC
I will post a picture asap..
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 05:23 AM UTC

Quoted Text

The diagram you show must be a change from the one I recall. What time period are you placing the M577 in...Vietnam, Cold War, Gulf War I? Gino can tell you much more than I recall, but the Vietnam era extension is a canvas contraption that rolls unto the rear of the 577 when not in use, the poles and cross members are also stored there. When elongated (I seem to recall) the canvas is supported by three cross members a front, middle and rear. They are the width of the track itself. Each is held up by an upright I would spit ball the distance between the poles is probably about five feet. The canvas is as tall as the track. The door is an integral part of the extension not as shown in the diagram. The diagram might be what they use today, once again the guy most up on it is Gino.
Hope this helps and that others will chime in...my recollections are dated.
DJ



We may be saying the same thing, but here's what I remember from my FDC track. As you said, there are three bow poles which support the roof. There are also two eave poles which have two pieces with one sliding inside the other and extending to form the length of the tent. There are also two ridge poles each one half the length of the extended tent. And finally there are four extendable leg poles which insert into the eave poles in the center and rear of the tent. The front end of the tent is supported with two short stubs which are mounted to the rear wall of the track. There's a great set of pictures in the TM which is available for download here. [url=https://www.nsncenter.com/Library/TM/TM-9-2350-261-10[/url]
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 07:38 AM UTC
I'd like to see the link also.
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 09:20 AM UTC
The one with the Tamiya kit is the "original" canvas monster. So it depends on what era you are going for. My FDC had the canvas until 1994 and we got the new SICP system. Wider but shorter than the canvas system.


Someone on here at one time was working on a kit of the canvas extension but I have not seen anything else on it lately.

HTH
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 08:39 PM UTC
it s the canvas monster, not the newer MCPS...

when I ve primed it, I will post a picture..I don t know if the producer will produce it for selling purpose though..
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 12:38 AM UTC
don t know how to put pictures in here....