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Beginners Build Log: Karl
RSingleton
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2008 - 01:52 PM UTC
Hello everyone in what I plan to be a long build log. This is the Trumpeter kit with none of the rail things and has both initial and later hulls. I decided to splurge for this as a birthday/Eagle Scout/Christmas gift. Let me just flat out say this kit is freakin HUGE! And if you can tell from the second picture, has loads of plastic and other things, as it takes up most of my living room. I only have limited skills but hopefully with the help of everyone here, will be the best model I'll ever make. Hope ya'll enjoy.


The size of the box: Yes, that's a 1 foot ruler


All the stuff in the box:









The sprocket looks like it isn't aligned but take my word for it, it is.
These images don't do the details justice these are just immaculate! And yes, this is for the Big Guns campaign.

Richard

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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2008 - 02:45 PM UTC
I am looking forward to this build, please keep us posted.
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2008 - 03:16 PM UTC
Looks like you have an awful lot ahead! I will be keeping up with this one, i've always wanted to do a Karl, just never wanted to shell out the big bucks!
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 01:31 AM UTC
Here's another update: Some more of the suspension:

(some better pictures too)


A look down the return rollers






The back with a NOTEK light to the left and something? to the right.



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I am looking forward to this build, please keep us posted.



I will Panzerup12


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Looks like you have an awful lot ahead! I will be keeping up with this one, i've always wanted to do a Karl, just never wanted to shell out the big bucks!



There is a heck of a lot for this kit, I just can't wait for the photoetch and the beautiful aluminum shells that I'll post when I get to them. But I think I got this for a generous deal. $65.99! Everything you need for it is right in there, no aftermarket sets needed because of the detail, and considering most kits are around $55, an extra ten bucks for a massive beast isn't that bad. It just limits me because It'll take me a while to get other stuff for the process of turning it into a masterpiece.

I'll do my best to post my work as soon as possible
Richard

"Building is easy. Painting is hard. Weathering is harder. Not going crazy doing the above is hardest."

RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 02:04 AM UTC
Another quick update (taking a breakfast break)




My main goal for today:


Richard
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 04:01 AM UTC

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There is a heck of a lot for this kit, I just can't wait for the photoetch and the beautiful aluminum shells that I'll post when I get to them. But I think I got this for a generous deal. $65.99! Everything you need for it is right in there, no aftermarket sets needed because of the detail, and considering most kits are around $55, an extra ten bucks for a massive beast isn't that bad. It just limits me because It'll take me a while to get other stuff for the process of turning it into a masterpiece.



Sorry, i thought I saw this kit online for somwhere near $100. Not sure. I do know that i've never paid near 55 bucks for a kit in Taegu. Perhaps they get them cheaper in Korea than the States. I will check on the price for this kit next trip to Taegu. Good Luck with the build Rich.

Also, while i am thinking about it. Remember this is not a very mobile piece of equipment, so the weathering wont quite be the same as a tank, its not as fast so mud shouldnt be everywhere.
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 05:55 AM UTC

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Sorry, i thought I saw this kit online for somwhere near $100. Not sure. I do know that i've never paid near 55 bucks for a kit in Taegu. Perhaps they get them cheaper in Korea than the States. I will check on the price for this kit next trip to Taegu. Good Luck with the build Rich.

Also, while i am thinking about it. Remember this is not a very mobile piece of equipment, so the weathering wont quite be the same as a tank, its not as fast so mud shouldnt be everywhere.



I don't plan to weather it very much, just a little dust here and there. And with a price, my store must have had for a really long time because it had a $20 off sticker.

Besides that, I'm going to try to finish the suspension today.
Richard

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RSingleton
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 07:44 AM UTC
Last Update most likely for today.

The suspension is finished excapt for the small sidebar things that I will leave off for ease of painting. There was a little bit of flash here and there but nothing a scalpel could cut off.
I would kind of like to make a build review of this kit if possible. Anyway on to the pics:

Views of the almost completed suspension. I wnet with the early hull as I want to build either Adam or Eve. Still haven't decided who yet. Am I taking decent enough pictures?




A look down the wheels:


A slight bit of work on the upper hull:


Couldn't resist the gun:



A look at the Karl factory:


I still can't get over the size and detail of this kit.
Richard

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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 09:25 PM UTC
Hi All.

I have both the Early and Late version with the Railway wagons. I have started the early version and have finished both the Railway Wagons and the support structures for the Morser. I have just started the Morser itself and the return rollers have some mean mould seams on them that change half-way around the rim which tells me the mould s were misaligned when they injected the plastic for my model...

Oh well.. a bit more work.

Hope you didn't have the same problem mate!
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2008 - 10:38 PM UTC
Looks like will be a good build.

A suggestion as this is constructive comments, is you might want to sand some of the left over nibs that are the attachment point from the sprue tree off.

Get yourself a Flex-i- file for the wheels.

http://www.flex-i-file.com/html/flexifile.html



Nice start.

Will keep an eye on it.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 01:12 AM UTC

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I have both the Early and Late version with the Railway wagons. I have started the early version and have finished both the Railway Wagons and the support structures for the Morser. I have just started the Morser itself and the return rollers have some mean mould seams on them that change half-way around the rim which tells me the mould s were misaligned when they injected the plastic for my model...

Oh well.. a bit more work.

Hope you didn't have the same problem mate!



I couldn't see any mold seams on the return roller on my kit, they were all smooth. So thank goodness for less work. Good luck on your beast(s).


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Looks like will be a good build.

A suggestion as this is constructive comments, is you might want to sand some of the left over nibs that are the attachment point from the sprue tree off.

Get yourself a Flex-i- file for the wheels.



I'm getting a little bit of sandpaper today that will help me a lot with the nubs. I also have a small file I just found that will help me. Today I'm going to try better sanding off the seams.

Will have an update soon,

Richard

"Building is easy. Painting is hard. Weathering is harder. Not going crazy doing the above is hardest."
RSingleton
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 01:44 AM UTC
OK, Update Time!

Due to the fact of liking big guns, one of todays two goals will be miking just the mortar part pretty and finishing and priming the suspension. If I might say myself, these pictures are a lot cleaner. Except for the instructions:|





The lovely shells. I had issues with the photoetch for the larger shell. Lesson Learned: Heat the Photoetch first then bend it. Super glue will only work so well
Anyway, here's the cleaner pics:



Small shell:


The morter that needs cleaning up today:




The gun even recoils, how cool is that!


I already mentioned my goals for today, so fire away with any comments, questions, bashes, snide remarks, anything that will help the model improve!

Richard

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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 02:51 AM UTC
Looking good so far. From reading your post, I probably already know the answer to this, but in your opinion, is the kit worth the money?
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 03:17 AM UTC

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Looking good so far. From reading your post, I probably already know the answer to this, but in your opinion, is the kit worth the money?



I'd say it's worth the money if you are lucky to find it on sale. If you can find it between 60-73 bucks, it's the best deal because get loads of plastic, plenty of options, enough photoetch to keep everyone happy, and is the largest 1/35 thing you can get besides a K5 Leopold. And considering kits nowadays are $52-66, and most those that have money put a lot of expensive aftermarket sets into the kit (and the paints not to mention...), well that's enough words. In mine: Go for it if it's on sale or at least under $75. If you feel real adventerous, you can find it here: don't know what it would be for shipping, thats the killer

http://ehobbyland.stores.yahoo.net/trmokagr041s.html

Just make sure its for a special occasion if anyone asks

Richard

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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 03:19 AM UTC
Hi Richard. Nice build so far .... I prefer the early version as well. Never bought this kit, but watching through this, Im tempted.
Its already been pointed out, but a little extra effort at this stage will make a huge difference to the final product. Sand off the attachment points and also fill and disguise the joints on the larger bits. These will become even more noticeable after painting, and will be the things youŽll see in time to come, when your skills develop. YouŽve invested the money now, dont have any regrets a year or two, because of a little less work today or haste to show the next steps.
I also applaud your decision to make a blog. I only wish more modellers would blog their builds. Your comments and points of view on the build are very important, and are as relevant as anybody who has been building for years ... maybe even more so. We see the parts and and can see how it goes together. Anybody interested in building this themselves can look elsewhere for further details and background, if they want them.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 05:35 AM UTC

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I'm getting a little bit of sandpaper today that will help me a lot with the nubs. I also have a small file I just found that will help me. Today I'm going to try better sanding off the seams.

Richard



Richard,
Your local dollar store will have flexible, padded nailfiles for a buck or so each. I grab a few everytime I go. They come in multiple grits from course to fine and are double-sided with a different grit on each side. There's also the typical cardboard nailfiles (disposable) that work for modeling as well. You can usually get a pack of 20 for about $1.00 or so.

The Karl looks great so far. Good work, man!

Cuhail
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 08:40 AM UTC
Thanks for the info on the flexi-file. Probel is they want US$25 to post a small package to me in Australia. That is ridiculous!!
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 10:21 AM UTC
Okay, next update!

I finally finished the suspension but many things of this go FUBAR very quickly
Warning: There were a lot of small parts and long thin slightly warped parts in this step. I had to leave the bootom of this long bar off and hope it is not noticeable. Every small part had to be slightly modified and it was a PIA! I got through it though and painted it. Flat Gull Grey was used as a primer and German gray spray was used next. Both are the small spraycans and was I amazed when I used 'em. The paint went on so evenly. Anyway in short, I finished the suspension (still have to paint the wheels and return rollers and touch up) and it was a major pain to build so use caution and tweezers.

The step of infamy:


I know there is a little yellow that shows through but I will touch it up later:





Any comments welcomed as I need them.
Richard

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I am really starting to find this very true
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 01:45 PM UTC
Hello Richard,
The build looks to be comming along nicely. As far as the painting, not bad, but you may want to go with lighter coats and let the paint build up. After each coat dries, you can go back and lightly sand drips or runs that sometime form from rattle cans.

Keep the updates comming!
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Posted: Monday, November 24, 2008 - 09:00 AM UTC

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Hello Richard,
The build looks to be comming along nicely. As far as the painting, not bad, but you may want to go with lighter coats and let the paint build up. After each coat dries, you can go back and lightly sand drips or runs that sometime form from rattle cans.

Keep the updates comming!



Will do, I'll try to do that for the upper hull and gun because a really do not want to screw that up! Thanks a lot for that piece of advice which reminds me to think then act instead of the other way around! Thanks Panzerup12.

Richard

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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 02:27 AM UTC
Hello Everyone, Here's a small update.

These are the two steps I did over the past two days, It's been going slowly with a few frustrations.


Part T8 in the instructions was a pain. While cutting it off the sprue, it broke into three small pieces. It took me an hour, some bad words, and loads of patience to get the small rod back together It looks relativly the way it should with a little bit of bendage but it is not that noticeable.

Here's the loading cradle with some photoetch for the small side parts.


Here is everything else:







Any comments or tips are welcome. I apologize for there worse pics but its what you get from rushing around cleaning the house for Thanksgiving.

Richard

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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 06:53 AM UTC
Richard very well done so far. Keep going. Don't give up. Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 07:26 AM UTC
Great job so far Richard.I had thought about buying that kit but the price tag and the size of it scared me away.Your build log is very inforative and motivating.I'll keep following this build and maybe try building it myself.This wil be an X-mas present from the wife.
Keep posting please.
Happy thanksgiving to you and your family.

Rob
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Posted: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 08:09 AM UTC
jimz66-you don't have to worry about me giving up. I'm only worried about the daunting prospect of the detail painting, slight weathering, crewmembers, shells, the tons of tiny pieces on the upper hull, the cockpit... did I leave anything out? Just kidding, I'm not worried about it, just taking my time enjoying the build and the five days off school.

scratchmod- I will keep posting and nothing beats a huge honkin' gun on a shelf and if that doesn't inspire anyone, well I don't know what will.

Now here are some questions to anyone:
1) What is the best way to paint the aluminum shells
2) What would be the final color of the shell? Flat Black?
3)How do a paint and weather the tracks? I know the pads should have a little bit of silver on the edges and I have a tamiya weathering pen as a replacement for pigments unless there are cheap alternatives.

If anyone can answer these questions I'd appreciate it very much.

I'll have an update soon, as I just finished priming the gun. (Also waiting for the good camera to come home too...)

Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans tomorrow and for Everyone else, have a fantastic day.
Richard

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