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Building AFV Club's new T-34! (with Interior)
MCR
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Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 04:18 AM UTC
No, no. What I was trying to say is that I have never seen 550mm "plate" tracks of this type on the version of the tank depicted in the kit though I have seen them on certain other Model '42s from other manufacturers of the T-34 (specifically a recovered Factory 183 produced OT-34 and one or two others).
I've been trying not to get too arcane when the subject in question is specific, though I really could have been clearer, since it can get very complicated and, more often than not, just confuses the issue with anyone who isn't a huge T-34 fan.
Now if you can find a tank from a later production batch (of the type depicted in the kit) with 550mm plates I'll be able to change the statement "I've never seen" to something else.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 02:00 AM UTC

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THIS KIT REALLY DESERVES THE SEPARATELY -AVAILABLE INDY LINK SET FROM AFV CLUB:



The AFVC tracks are really nice and very reasonably priced but are you going to use the type in photo on your model?

These would be common on later production Model '40s and many Model '41s (from time to time you may even see them on Model '42s but I suspect these were added well after production) but I have never seen them on any Factory 112 made tank.

The cast "waffle" pattern links would be more appropriate.



Never say never, when it comes to T-34s. LOL!



This T-34 was built at Krasnoe in February or early March 1942 with these tracks and probably with an M-17 motor. In another photo one can see the small round transmission hatch.

In large part you are correct. Most Krasnoe Sormovo T-34s were delivered with waffle tracks of one form or another, but in early 1942 they had not started to make tracks there. They were supposed to get them from STZ, but when the river froze it was impossible to ship anything by barge from Stalingrad. Tracks were in very short supply there, and for a time there were finished tanks parked without them.

These links are typical of KhPZ tanks (with a footnote about "chevron" tracks) and most everyone else's until the spring of 1942, when each producer went their own way and started making unique types of track. At that time Zavod No. 112 was using waffle tracks similar to the STZ track links, 550mm wide, and in 1943 they were using 500mm waffle track like everyone else. That's the type of track in the AFV Club kit you refer to. I like both set very much.

Cheers

Scott Fraser
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 01:26 AM UTC
Hey Ted, On the box art for the hex turret the rear wall hinges look like the large factory 112 type and not the petite factory 183 type. Is that really the case on the plastic model? Is 1940/41 model planned as well?
Thanks, DK
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Posted: Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 07:12 PM UTC
Although a Model 1940/41 hasn't yet been announced, the 1943 T-34/76 "Mickey Mouse" (two turret hatches) model is now available for sale in Taiwan. Stay tuned for a review very shortly...
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 02:14 AM UTC
Looks good, Ted. Looking forward to see the kit with full tracks.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 02:07 AM UTC
Here are the post -1942 type tracks installed:




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Posted: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 02:49 AM UTC
Looking good. Funny thing this sure looks like the 1/16 trumpeter that was scaled down!
MCR
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Posted: Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 07:39 AM UTC
Yes, the AFV Club tracks are nice, very similar to Model Kasten's but less expensive.

Have they announced a Model 40 or 41? Wouldn't have thought they would if only because the HB/Trump origins of their T-34s.

Mark
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 05:08 PM UTC
Quite right:
Both the appropriate latter-style "waffle" pattern and these early-style indy links are now available from AFV Club, but I'm anxiously awaiting the release of an early 1940/41 model T-34/76 to install these superb tracks onto (I don't own the Dragon kit). These links work like the real ones, with tiny connector pins, and they are easily assembled.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 04:27 AM UTC

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THIS KIT REALLY DESERVES THE SEPARATELY -AVAILABLE INDY LINK SET FROM AFV CLUB:




The AFVC tracks are really nice and very reasonably priced but are you going to use the type in photo on your model?
These would be common on later production Model '40s and many Model '41s (from time to time you may even see them on Model '42s but I suspect these were added well after production) but I have never seen them on any Factory 112 made tank.
The cast "waffle" pattern links would be more appropriate.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:39 PM UTC
Both kits are superb. The T-34/85 has more parts, and some minor issues from the /76 kit sorted-out. Get them both and you won't be sorry!
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 04:56 PM UTC
Hi Ted

Nice T34, you have there!!

In your opinion, which kit would you prefer the T34/76 or T34/85 from AFV?
Any reasons for your choice?



Regards
Rattrap
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 03:52 PM UTC

THIS KIT REALLY DESERVES THE SEPARATELY -AVAILABLE INDY LINK SET FROM AFV CLUB:
ted_hayward
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Posted: Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 04:40 PM UTC
The turret going together...


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Posted: Friday, November 06, 2009 - 03:35 AM UTC
Hi Ted!
Could you add a photo showing the other side of finished gun?? I have DML6418 T-34/76 with cast turret and planning to leave turret hatch open. Now DML has kindly left away all parts, that are needed to use the gun. Those black parts on left side of gun breech (for aiming?) in your last pic are missing from DML kit. Also right side is missing all details, so I have started to paln to scratch them. Thanks advance.
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 05:07 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, October 30, 2009 - 05:31 AM UTC
Looks good so far, Ted. The interior looks very complete and opens up many possibilities for wrecked T-34s.

Looking forward to see more
MCR
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Posted: Friday, October 30, 2009 - 03:50 AM UTC
Hey Ted,
Coming along fine.
One point: The gun and all it's metal attachments would have been painted the same 4BO green as the exterior of the tank.
The breach block and interior face of the breach would be bare metal/silver.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 03:38 PM UTC
I'm next starting on the turret interior -check out the detail of the gun recoil buffers (which will be hidden, anyways):



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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 03:53 AM UTC
Great work Ted. Very nice work indeed. Thanks for sharing. Great job.
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Posted: Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 04:05 PM UTC




Here's the hull, pretty well on it's way to being finished...
Removed by original poster on 09/13/09 - 03:06:04 (GMT).
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Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 05:35 AM UTC
I found the easiest way to install the springs was to first super-glue the metal coils to their related pinions while these parts were still on the sprue. This is the crucial step -you need an absolute rock-solid bond!
Next, cement the top eye of the springs (they have locating pins) into their homes in the inner hull. Install the torsion bars into the hull with their caps next, but don't insert the torsion bar locating pins into the bottom spring eyes yet. Finally, use a hooked piece of wire (a bent pin) to catch the spring eye and insert the torsion arm pin into the eye.
- sounds much worse than it really is! You should have no problems at all.

Remember, it's not a Panther: the T-34 suspension doesn't actually move up or down very far!
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 05:57 PM UTC


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Posted: Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 11:38 PM UTC
Hi Ted ,

This looks like a great build of a fantastic kit , will be keeping an eye on the progress

Regards

Jerry