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M4A2Sherman
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Canada
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 05:37 PM UTC
Hi everyone,

I have seen many photos of commonwealth tanks and vehicles that have a red/white/red rectangle on the sides. It looks like a Canadian flag without the maple leaf. What is this, and was it only on Canadian tanks and vehicles? It is shown on the front of this Ram tanks. http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/exhibitions/tresors/treasure/images/155_1c.gif
Thanks,
M4A2Sherman
D_J_W
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Hamilton, New Zealand
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 07:28 PM UTC
It's the RAC Flash. Introduced in 1917 British tanks were given a prominent white/red/white mark to easily distinguishable from captured units used by the emeny, the colours being those of the Cavalry Corps.
The red/white/red AFV recognition sign was introduced in March 1942 consisting of a rectangle 10-in high and divided vertically into 6-in red/white/red strips. It was to be carried on all AFVs in the UK and with the 1st Army in Tunisia, later on it was used by all British armoured units in Italy. It offically remained in use until the spring of 1944. In the North Africa it was intended to be white/red/white but it was soon abandoned as it provided a good aiming mark for enemy gunners.

sources:
British Military Markings 1939-1945, Hodges & Taylor, and
British Tanks Markings and Names, White

cheers
David
DioRandy
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 08:30 PM UTC
With a bullseye like that, there probably weren't many captured tanks to be concerned about.
404NotFound
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Tennessee, United States
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:48 AM UTC
WW2 era Canadian national flags were not anything like the Canadian flag of today. The striping wouldn't have had anything to do with a Canadian flag.

http://flagspot.net/flags/ca-1921.html
M4A2Sherman
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Canada
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 02:56 PM UTC
Thanks for the replies, guys. I forgot about the different Canadian flag! (How embarrasing, I am Canadian!) So it was not used in NW Europe?
Thanks,
M4A2Sherman
D_J_W
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 04:48 PM UTC

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So it was not used in NW Europe?



Just don't say "never", unlikely, yes. It would be just some swine to sneak one over the channel just to confound some poor modeller in the years to come

cheers
David
UncaBret
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 12:26 PM UTC

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With a bullseye like that, there probably weren't many captured tanks to be concerned about.



No worse than the crosses on German tanks.