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How to model a T-64
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 03:26 AM GMT
Help to produce a proper T-64. Anyone can add information. I will try to post updated information at the top of this thread to make a quick, one stop information source, but it will be kept intentionally focused as quick help. Detailed discussion will still remain in the thread itself. All contributions welcome.
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ARMORAMA
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Posted: Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 02:33 PM GMT
Several versions from SKIF:
T - 64 B - Soviet main battle tank (nr 203)
T-64 AK-Soviet main battle tank (nr 227)
T-64B ProfiPack (nr 303)
T-64A Soviet Main Battle Tank (nr 202)
T-64BM2 Soviet Tank (nr 228)
T-64BV Soviet Main Battle Tank (nr 205)

TRACKS FOR T-64 ( All types) -- nr 501
MINE ROLLER for T-55, T-64, T-80 -- nr 502

Upcoming versions from Trumpeter:
TM01578 T64A Mod 1972 MBT
TM01581 T64B Mod 1975 MBT

Personally I only built the T-64 AK version, some years ago.
It had some nice details but I didn't like the plastic quality, the hull wasn't easy to align and the tracks were awful.
But still it was an ok kit, some Eastern Express kits were much worse.
SEDimmick
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Posted: Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 02:33 PM GMT
Miniarm makes a couple nice pieces for the Skif kit

B35018 T-64A Turret m1972

B35020 T-64 Workable track set

B35012 T-64B with roof applique (anti-radiation layer)

B35008 T-64B m1981 Turret

Your going to need at least one of the turrets and the tracks to help make an accurate T-64 out of the Skif kit.
afv_rob
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Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 11:49 AM GMT
Accurate Armor T-64B update/detail set:

http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowProduct.cfm?manufacturer=0&category=4&subcategory=35&product=1752

Available references:

Kagero Topshots T-64A: http://www.barbarossabooks.eu/topshots-no-22-t64-and-t64a-main-battle-tank-p-12791.html

Concord Publications 1031 T-64 and T-80 (long out of print but does turn up at shows/ebay)
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 10:26 AM GMT
I have a nice walkaound of a T-64B with ERA on my hard disk. Unfortunately I forgot from where I downloaded it but if anybody needs them just drop me a PM.
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Monday, June 13, 2011 - 10:20 AM GMT
Might be able to help here ..Prime Portal have a 4 page walk around on the T-64 ,,might be pretty good for you blokes

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/egor_kalmykov/t-64/

Cheers

Phill
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 11:54 PM GMT
aaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!
I have just bought the Skif T64A....does anyone know if the accurate armour T64b conversion would be usable?
Cheers
John
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 02:41 AM GMT
I do not have the AA conversions, but I believe the SKIF T-64 hulls are the same in both kits. Anyone?
bigmal
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2011 - 06:14 AM GMT
You could use the AA conversion to make a early T64B 1975 model with the gill armour.
I`d already done the 1981 model from AA so i used a miniarm conversion to make a 1975 model
I did them in different colour schemes and they look well side by side.

Is there a UK stockist for Miniarm products, does any one know as i`d like to do another one?
Also, is there any further news of the Trumpeter offerings of this great little tank?

Malcolm
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 09:20 AM GMT
Despite the abuse leveled at Skif's T-64 track link set they can be used, however they must be filed to fit, and there are exactly as many as you need, so don't lose or break any.
SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 - 03:37 AM GMT

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I do not have the AA conversions, but I believe the SKIF T-64 hulls are the same in both kits. Anyone?



The T-64BM kit has additional anti-radiation liners on the upper hull IIRC. They are pretty easy to remove though.
SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 - 03:38 AM GMT
Found this really cool Russian video on the T-64 on youtube today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwGQYYAkd8Y&feature=related

lukiftian
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Posted: Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 08:25 AM GMT
Fortunately I won't have to bother with the Skif track links any more, the workable links from Trumpeter fit the Skif kit's drive sprockets and wheels like a glove.
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 03:52 PM GMT

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Fortunately I won't have to bother with the Skif track links any more, the workable links from Trumpeter fit the Skif kit's drive sprockets and wheels like a glove.



NICE!
tembelis
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:57 PM GMT
Skif models do need a lot of extra work besides the use of aftermarket set, dont use the link by link tracks also from Skif, they dont fit, even together!
I am now building a T-64B from skif and since Trumpeter is about to produce a new one, i wonder if it is worth to continue.
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Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 11:31 AM GMT

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Skif models do need a lot of extra work besides the use of aftermarket set, dont use the link by link tracks also from Skif, they dont fit, even together!
I am now building a T-64B from skif and since Trumpeter is about to produce a new one, i wonder if it is worth to continue.



I'm working on an A and while I'm pleased Trumpeter put out a new kit I've gone quite aways on mine including rebuilding the turret (straight from the box it's terrible) so I'm a bit past the pitch and toss stage. I guess it depends how far you've gone but now that there are better tracks it actually is possible to build a good non-Trumpeter T-64 but it takes weeks and weeks of work.
tembelis
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Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:45 PM GMT
surely it depends on how far the construction has gone. I have almost total rebuild the turret using Tamiya epoxy puty and I have replace from scratch many others. I will continue because here in Greece the Trumpeter kit is quite expensive.
Tank_builder
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:40 AM GMT
Hey everyone,
I'm looking at getting the Trumpeter T-64. I want to make a Soviet tank deployed in East Germany. Would the A model have been there? Thanks for any help.
-Seth
tembelis
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 09:30 AM GMT
Soviet group of forces Germany was the main armoured formation armed with any type of T-64, the -A included. The old Concord publications book for T-64 and T-80 has enough photos but you will find many at the internet.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:12 AM GMT
Thanks for the info, now it's off to find pictures.
-Seth
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:27 AM GMT
Seth - Yes, the T-64A was deployed to Soviet Ground Forces Germany. In fact, it is documented that they received the -A first.

Generally, they were painted overall dark green with 3-digit ID numbers. Building the Trumpeter T-64 kit 01578 (which is a T-64A m72 regardless of the model box cover) OOB will yield what you want.
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 12:57 PM GMT
Perfect! Thanks for the info. The T-64 is kind of a grey area for me, never was too fond of it before now.
-Seth
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 03:51 PM GMT
Hi

If you use "т-64 гсвг" for searching the internet you'll find a lot of pictures of these tanks.
I've a question too. The trumpeter kit includes fuel drums (and some other parts which are obviously for the t-64b version) but these are not used. Does anyone knows if this is correct that fuel drums were not used with the mod 1972 or is this something special of the trumpeter kit. The skif t-64a has them but it seems to be an t-64a mod 1975. If anyone knows; thanks.

Jochen
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 05:30 PM GMT
Jochen,

I would say no, that the T-64A did not have rear fuel tanks, as per KMDB's writeup on the -A

It does appear to MAYBE have been able to mount them OVER the engine deck though (MAYBE) as per KMDB's writeup on the Obiekt 476

Also, here is Zaloga's review on Missing Links
tembelis
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2013 - 01:47 AM GMT
I dont think that fuel drums were used according the tank type, I've seen T-64Bs carrying standard T-54/55 flat fuel drums in place of the usual ones. I strongly recommend the following book.
OCHOBHOH BOEBON TAHK T-64, Boehhbin Mysen (or sth.like that) it is in russian language but it has extremely detailed photos and blueprints for every T-64 type. I am sorry I cannot write the publisher correct. ISBN.5-94038-022-0. I believe that Trumpeter will issue at least 2 more T-64 models.