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Military Railroad Campaign
ltb073
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Posted: Friday, June 03, 2011 - 01:03 PM UTC

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Bob: For your build choices, I find option B more interesting, but likely more complex to build.



@ Bob, I would have to agree with Zon here also I didn't know that Mack made trains

@Fred, much better

@Bob D. thats the whole propose make it intresting
Graywolfgang
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Posted: Friday, June 03, 2011 - 04:24 PM UTC
I just checked the Azimut Productions web site and the G10 Box car is not listed anymore. They still have four rail cars listed, two flat cars and the Panzertraggerwagen. You can order thies start from them.

@Sal, I just thought they looked better the other way. I guess it was me?
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 04:23 AM UTC

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This is getting more interesting and a little stranger each time I check in. First strange one was the bicycle powered platform which was so cool I thought about adding one to my dio, and the second was the mule powered one. Was thinking where to get boogies for a scratch built tanker I wanted and the answer comes up from Bob C. All aboard that is a board. All that aint, is a plank.



Always happy to help or inspire folks! There's two rules of thumb for building/making trucks....scratch all of them or make one master and resin cast it multiple times.
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 04:30 AM UTC

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Bob: For your build choices, I find option B more interesting, but likely more complex to build.



@ Bob, I would have to agree with Zon here also I didn't know that Mack made trains [/quote]

Sal, Mack did model they're few rail pieces after the well known AC trucks...while the trucks had a great reputation, the rail equipment didn't so much. Mack made quite a few switchers and some rail busses.

milvehfan
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 05:29 AM UTC
Hey is it November Yet ??? LOL
I am sitting here working on a DAK Dio, I keep looking over at my stash kits and my Dragon Railcars are calling out to me...Build me, Build me NOW.


Hey Bob,
I Love that boxcar, Its OUSTADING !!!!
I Just wish Trumpeter or Dragon would come out with one as my scratch-building skills are not near as good as yours.
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 08:17 AM UTC
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trumpeter didn’t bring one out.
old-dragon
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 02:26 PM UTC

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...I Just wish Trumpeter or Dragon would come out with one as my scratch-building skills are not near as good as yours.
milvehfan


Awh come on man, don't sell yourself short! The hardest part to the project would be finding good multiview drawings to go by...really. Use a DML kit for the frame and attached goodies...all you'd have to is build the sides, ends{same as the sides but much shorter!} and the top.
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 02:31 PM UTC

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Trumpeter didn’t bring one out.



I'll bet they do too...it seemed at 1st that they were copying the old DML stuff but then they came running out of the usual box with the armored train goodies and haven't stopped to look back yet....I think DML figured they couldn't keep up with Trumpy so they'd just re-release the old classics.
Graywolfgang
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 03:19 PM UTC
I don’t know who DML copied there different rail cars from. Or I should have said they copied and retooled some parts. They sure resemble Ironside in there construction of the parts, but just cleaner.
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Posted: Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 01:05 AM UTC
While searching for info on my Dragon Artilleriewagen I found this video that you all might enjoy..... PanzerZug

I found a great image of 3 abandoned cars... in a bit of a state ....
mmmmmm = very tempting especially with CyberHobby doing those kits with the extras.

I try and dig it up.

Regards Duncan.
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Posted: Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 01:17 AM UTC


Me likey... = (Obviously for discussion purposes only)
tutorca
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Posted: Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 08:31 PM UTC
well here is the latest out of the back shops.Starting to get all my haf finished kits done.Painted and weathered.



1/72 scale







1/35 scale











Mark Giles
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:10 AM UTC
@Duncan, nice photo will that be your build for this campaign

@ Mark, excellent looking stuff there nice camo, what did you use for the base color? I think that is what I am going to be going with for this campaign, thanks for sharing
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:33 AM UTC
Hi Sal....... I would really like to... ? but we'll see how my sanity is, after my 'What If' Panther, it is driving me nuts!!! just cut off the turret work (again) and started again. Ooooops sorry =

Anybody got any ideas what colour they might be in my picture?
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:57 PM UTC
I used Model Master, Acryl. #4796 Panzer Dunkergerb 1943

Mark Giles
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 11:56 PM UTC

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I used Model Master, Acryl. #4796 Panzer Dunkergerb 1943

Mark Giles



Thanks for that, shame I was hoping it was some sort of Grey
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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 06:11 PM UTC

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Thanks for that, shame I was hoping it was some sort of Grey



Why the shame, did I do something wrong? or was there a particular way you were looking at doing it?

Intrested in you ideas as to painting and weathering, have not done much armor for years.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 06:20 PM UTC
No, no you've done nothing wrong, you where very helpful, .. I meant shame that the real thing wasn't Grey! but who's to say it wasn't
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 08:14 AM UTC
In 42 or 43 when the order came down for the armor to change from gray to yellow the train’s rear ordered to change also. When they camouflaged the trains they also camouflaged the armor. All the pictures I have of camouflaged BP-42’s and 44’s so the 38ts camouflaged to match the Panzertarggerwagen.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 12:12 PM UTC
Fred thanks for the information, what about the artillery wagons that are in Ducans photos
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 01:30 PM UTC
@Sal Those particular Panzerspaheagens (heavy scout cars) weren’t delivered until 44 so they should be painted yellow. They can also be camouflaged. The railroad came under the same rules as the armor did.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 02:46 PM UTC
For those of you that are really interested in the German Armored Trains, Die Panzerzuge des Deutschen Reiches 1904-1945 by Wolfgang Sawodny ISBN 3-88255-678-1 is the book is the book you need. It’s in German only. It has a lot of pictures of cars and things you woun’t even think they put on rail.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 06:49 PM UTC

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Obviously for discussion purposes only



Why, I might have to do that as a dio. could be fun, and the car are simple to biuld.

Think it might be the one for the campain.But have a few ideas, like a scratch biult K12.

Mark Giles
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:37 PM UTC

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For those of you that are really interested in the German Armored Trains, Die Panzerzuge des Deutschen Reiches 1904-1945 by Wolfgang Sawodny ISBN 3-88255-678-1 is the book is the book you need. It’s in German only. It has a lot of pictures of cars and things you woun’t even think they put on rail.



It´s not in German only anymore. There´s english version available and I have to say it´s a must for armored train modelers.
For example from here:
Sawodny
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Posted: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:52 PM UTC
@ Hey Mark I like your 38T and the Panzertraggerwagen. DML left out the coupling parts from there Panzerspahwagens. Here is a dio you could do is incorporate your Panzertraggerwagen with the Panzerspahwagens. Build yourself an armored train (heavy scout car). The normal train consisted of twelve differently equipped cars; four artillery cars, four infantry cars and two command cars. At the ends of the train were panzertraggerwagens and pusher cars. Now that would be a train.

@ casualmodeler They would bring it out in English. BTW how much is it now? I just might have to get a new copy. It is a must for German armored train builders.