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M1070 HET step by step
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 08:31 AM UTC

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Yep, If I knew that he upgrade was the wrong size I would not buy it.


cheers



I doubt the engine would even look undersized. It would still fill the available space.

If this issue wasn't brought out, no one would be able to tell it was not the correct size anyhow. Or is it an issue? Do you have actual measurements on the opening under the cab, or are you just working from the picture of the deformed cab after an IED strike you posted above?

I'll wait to see how much the engine and cab rebuild set come out to be and I bet the engine alone would have been much cheaper and would have sold just as well, if not better.

With the price of the kit and how detailed it already is, I don't see many people putting more money into it for expensive resin sets. The DEF Model wheel set is a rediculouse $100 as it is (which I will not be getting). I don't think I would put out any more than about $30 for additional resin for this one.

To each thier own though.



Sorry but I have an engine size as well as detailed photos which I photographed myself. Even in Europe goes M1070 HET. Not only have pictures of burned vehicles.
DEF is not my business so I will not comment on its price.
My Wheels set for M1070 HET (HB) costs $ 23, - and set the engine will be worth circa $ 25-29, -. Sorry, but I do not care for it in the initial review was written "Real made ​​a small model engine for HET"
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 12:01 PM UTC
If you keep the price down, that will be good. I hope it comes out nicely.
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 01:01 AM UTC
Nice Build Milo, my wife brought me one for Christmas so I'm following your thread with some interest, keep up the good work

cheers

keith
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 05:29 AM UTC
I'm lovin your build Milo.

I've made a start on this kit, doing the M1000 first. I might start a build thread??

Nige
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 06:51 AM UTC
Keith & Nigel
Thank you for your comment.
Miloslav
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 08:27 AM UTC
Milo,

I have a couple of questions for you, as you seem to be the "Konowledgeable one"??

Would the Tractor and trailer come out of the Factory in a basic green colour, then have the camo sprayed on afterwards?

If the unit was then posted to Iraq/Afghanistan, would the sand colour then be painted over the camo?

I ask these questions as all the reference I have seen shows the trucks and trailers with unpainted hydraulic hoses and fittings, almost as though they were fitted after painting? I can't find any pics of desert schemes to prove they were painted in sand at the Factory or not???

Thanks

Nige.

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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:07 AM UTC

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Milo,

I have a couple of questions for you, as you seem to be the "Konowledgeable one"??

Would the Tractor and trailer come out of the Factory in a basic green colour, then have the camo sprayed on afterwards?

If the unit was then posted to Iraq/Afghanistan, would the sand colour then be painted over the camo?

I ask these questions as all the reference I have seen shows the trucks and trailers with unpainted hydraulic hoses and fittings, almost as though they were fitted after painting? I can't find any pics of desert schemes to prove they were painted in sand at the Factory or not???

Thanks

Nige.



Personally, I think that too. Some promotional photos but show HET-colored sand. Maybe someone could help us out of the U.S. Army.
Miloslav
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 10:42 AM UTC
I have a question< will the AA engine fit in the kit?
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 10:58 AM UTC

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I have a question< will the AA engine fit in the kit?
Jim



I think that British version have different engine.
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 12:00 PM UTC

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Milo,

I have a couple of questions for you, as you seem to be the "Konowledgeable one"??

Would the Tractor and trailer come out of the Factory in a basic green colour, then have the camo sprayed on afterwards?

If the unit was then posted to Iraq/Afghanistan, would the sand colour then be painted over the camo?

I ask these questions as all the reference I have seen shows the trucks and trailers with unpainted hydraulic hoses and fittings, almost as though they were fitted after painting? I can't find any pics of desert schemes to prove they were painted in sand at the Factory or not???

Thanks

Nige.



Personally, I think that too. Some promotional photos but show HET-colored sand. Maybe someone could help us out of the U.S. Army.
Miloslav



From the factory, they can come in either sand, green, or NATO camo. It depends on what unit they are going to. They can be repainted for deployment and are repainted often to maintain them in good working order. The hoses look new because they are covered when painting. The CARC paint tends to dry out and destroy rubber hoses.
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 11:31 PM UTC
Thanks Gino,

You've answered my query perfectly there!!

So, to build an accurate model, all the hoses and fittings should be painted "as new" because thy always look that way, no matter how many times the vehicle has been painted.

This is exactly how I'm building mine at the moment as I feel the hoses on the trailers suspension units are such a eyecatching part of the model.

I'm pleased this is the case, as it would be such a shame to paint it all green/camo or sand.

Thanks again

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 12:01 AM UTC

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I think that British version have different engine.



You're right. The British version (a.k.a. M1070F) is fitted with a 700 HP Caterpillar C-18 engine :




whereas the US one has a 500 HP Detroit Diesel 8V92.

Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 03:06 AM UTC

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I think that British version have different engine.



You're right. The British version (a.k.a. M1070F) is fitted with a 700 HP Caterpillar C-18 engine :




whereas the US one has a 500 HP Detroit Diesel 8V92.

Frenchy



Trust us Brits to use a boring old straight six!!

V8's rule!!!!
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 04:03 AM UTC
well that killed my Idea for an engine
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 04:14 AM UTC
What electronic device - radio, Duke .... HET used for? from what year to Duke antenna?
Thanks
bulivyf
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 04:42 AM UTC
Next update - new parts for Cab
To be able to install the engine, I make a new front and lower part of the Cab. I also rebuilt the cooler.




More photos:
http://www.realmodel.cz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117:m1070-het-step-by-step&catid=41:work-in-progress-&Itemid=85
Photos of real vehicle:
http://www.realmodel.cz/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=65:m-1070-het&Itemid=50
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 06:32 AM UTC
Nice work on the update, good job on the radiator.


cheers
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 08:17 AM UTC
This build just gets better and better Milo.

I NEED those resin bits, when will you sell them to me??

Regards

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 08:42 AM UTC

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This build just gets better and better Milo.

I NEED those resin bits, when will you sell them to me??

Regards

Nige



Hi
all this resin parts include new engine set. I can send you this parts separate no problem. send me address to PM.
Miloslav
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 02:26 AM UTC

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Nice work on the update, good job on the radiator.


cheers



Thanks Rick.
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 05:28 AM UTC
M1000 Trailer Walk Around
http://www.realmodel.cz/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=65%3Am-1070-het&Itemid=50&limitstart=100
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 10:20 AM UTC
I am very curious about the engine! Hope HB will release just the tractor some day to make "at works" diorama...
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 10:53 AM UTC
Fantastic Milo! I really want one of these but I just dont have the cash or the space to put it
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 11:14 AM UTC

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I am very curious about the engine! Hope HB will release just the tractor some day to make "at works" diorama...



I have similar idea.
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Posted: Monday, January 16, 2012 - 11:43 AM UTC
I have followed this from the start, and am VERY impressed, the upgrade bits you are talking about seem to be just what is needed. Providing the price is not prohibitive, I for one will be having them, it is such a big and beautiful model, it would be a shame to feel it is not complete.
Keep up the excellent work.
Mick