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Strange and Weird Military Machines
windysean
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 04:18 AM UTC

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Darn ya Phill ,
My poor little brain is working overtime (ya can probably smell the burning wires from your place ), the lounge floor looks like a library has exploded and the printer is working overtime while I sort through and scale various plans and do a feasiblity list - down to the Top 50 .
One that keeps bouncing back into my noggon is this slightly mundane little creature:
Come on folks - just 2 more enlistee's and we are off and running


Casper, that's quite a find! Not a high-speed vehicle, for sure. I imagine those oval wheels keep somewhat smooth mounted on that beam, but they must get out of rhythm often and make for an out-of-control ride experience. Looks like many standard Jeep parts up top though.
Cheers!
-Sean H.
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 09:58 AM UTC
Hmmm, maybe give me an excuse to do this

bwiber
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC
Sounds totally screwy.... so I am signing up.... Now that should quiet at least one of the little voices that keep saying "Build me!!!"

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 01:25 PM UTC
Bob ..welcome mate,,, your number 9 now if Graeme decides to join too then we have a campaign and can let all our ideas come to life .. the more hunting i do the more i find ..,with the amount of things out there god the choices are huge ,,,bugger
I know the rest of the guys want to build some strange machines but prototypes are more than welcome too . hell what i have in mind is a prototype and 2 ever made .
Sign up Graeme

Phill
bwiber
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 03:39 PM UTC

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Darn ya Phill ,
My poor little brain is working overtime (ya can probably smell the burning wires from your place ), the lounge floor looks like a library has exploded and the printer is working overtime while I sort through and scale various plans and do a feasiblity list - down to the Top 50 .
One that keeps bouncing back into my noggon is this slightly mundane little creature:



Come on folks - just 2 more enlistee's and we are off and running



Was looking for ideas for this build and came across the following web page....http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/12/17/elliptical-wheels-innovative-leap-forward-or-crackpot-idea/ It gets odder than even the photo suggests...

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 03:56 PM UTC
I have to agree Bob ,, looking at the wheel base how the hell does it turn and i think maybe one of the only vehicles you can get sea sick in with out even going near water.
casper
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 10:21 PM UTC
All,
here's a few bits'n'pieces to get the creative juices flowing for those "sitting on the fence":









a mere drop in bucket of the multitude of weird and wonderful creations.
Phill - it's quite obvious that the hippies weren't the only one's using pot and LSD .
Anywho back to my CAD (cardboard assisted design) work to see if the elliptical wheels can be made.
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 11:03 PM UTC
Rog ya got some beauties there mate ,, I know what one and two are ..three .. huh?? as in What the heck! ,, four is along the same lines as three ..five is a Studebaker LC4x4 pilot model truck ..six is someones really not great idea for a LVT but with wheels ? lol
seven looks like a race car/boat lol
Great finds man!
I will have to file my little pile of pics and throw them on here ..you guys will love some of the strange ass things i've found
bwiber
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 07:01 AM UTC
Here are a few more odd ones...

Land Train....


Teracruzer....


Not sure what it was called...


And the search goes on....
Bob

Then I remembered the HIPPO....


I think I might just be set for a vehicle....
Bob
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 09:51 AM UTC
Bob ,, oh man if the hippo is your choice then thats a beauty ,,Leo 1 hull version ?
One of my mag's ( International Military Machines Jan 2002 ) as a really good write up on it with heaps of pics too .it also looks at the Dutch Bulldog ,the Dutch version of the Brit's FBRV.

Phill
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 10:26 AM UTC
Phill,

Yes, that is on a Leo 1 chassis.... volume 2 of the Shackelton Leopard books (very nice by the way) has a spread on it that includes drawings. As for the Bulldog.... have one about a third finished, but doing that for this build would be cheating just a bit.

Actually, the Leopard books have a lot of shots of odd ball recovery, engineering, mine clearing versions.... both service vehicles and prototypes. Definitely a gold mine if you want to go with the Leopard chassis...

Bob
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 10:36 AM UTC
Oh your not wrong Bob ,,, I've got like 5 Leo 1's knocking around in different states of stuffed , but one machines i really want to build is the Sherman BARV , I've got plenty of those too
Now here's a pile of pics for ya .out of just one folder .i have more than 70 folders with 1000's of pics on my comp.
Way to many to put on here lol
So here's some for you guys to prev at ;





We've all seen this one its cool lol



Your Land train Bob , the entire thing .oh mumma
















This lot will over load the page

Phill
bwiber
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 05:31 PM UTC
Phill,

Here is an article about a BARV a bit closer to home for you...

http://anzacsteel.hobbyvista.com/Armoured%20Vehicles/m3ph_2.htm



Made from the Grant chassis...

Bob
windysean
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 02:03 AM UTC
Bob and Phill, I am planning to build a Dutch BARV for the Support/Recovery Campaign, based on the limited photos I found on the internet. (I don't even know my Leopards, but I'll give it a decent try starting with a Tamiya German Leopard 1, kit #35064.)
For this campaign, still fishing around. I really like that 005 above-- Phill, you said that's a Studebaker prototype? I'll have to delve deeper into that one.
thanks!
-Sean H.
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 02:31 AM UTC
There is some pretty wild stuff out there I love the Russian land battelship, and that huge German tank, someone should make those kits in plastic as im not much of a scratch builder. So I'll stick with my Land-Wasser Schlepper
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 09:35 AM UTC
Cheers for that Bob ,,i think ya helped Sean too with the same post
Sean ,,yup thats a Studebaker LC4x4 ,, lets see what my books tells me about it ,, alrighty then ,this is what it has .
Truck 1 1/2-ton,4x4,cargo,low silhouette , (Studebaker LC4x4-125950,hercules JXD 6 cyl, 109hp engine,5F1Rx2 gears,WB,105in, 189 3/4 x 92 x 93 3/4 in, 9655lbs, Unusual platform desgin with driver positioned centrally in the front, front entrance, body length (inside) 161in, Pilot only. troop seating capacity for 17 men, front mounted winch had 5000lb capacity , out rigger engine on right hand side .
Thats all my little book has on it , has another pic of it without its one piece roof on it too.
Hope this helps ya out some .
Sal ,, ya i would go with the land /water/ tractor too ..its very cool, very different and the strange thing is it was seen more in the desert than it was anywhere else

Phill
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 10:06 AM UTC
Hey Phill, that's a stunning idea indeed, unfortunately I think i'll be to busy with my job to partecipate

Anyway, if you want to scratch The "Russian armoured pancake"...



remember that its name is Object 279 (объект 279), the protype is now preserved in Kubinka museum.
I think that links could be useful for who wants to make it:

http://www.popmech.ru/blogs/post/377-kak-vyimirali-dinozavryi-poslednie-tyazhelyie-tanki-chast-5-1/

http://www.yaplakal.com/uploads/post-3-13077055713393.jpg

http://smi2.ru/nik191/c173046/

http://avtorus.com/?p=1813

http://serkoff.narod.ru/photoalbum110.html

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/fotosergs/view/328944/?page=1#preview

I'll follow for sure this campaign,maybe i'll be able to subscribe later

Cheers and have a god job!
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 10:38 AM UTC

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All,
here's a few bits'n'pieces to get the creative juices flowing for those "sitting on the fence":









a mere drop in bucket of the multitude of weird and wonderful creations.
Phill - it's quite obvious that the hippies weren't the only one's using pot and LSD .
Anywho back to my CAD (cardboard assisted design) work to see if the elliptical wheels can be made.


That wheeled boat thingy (pic marked 007 ironically) is exactly what I needed for a steampunk converstion I hve in the queue.
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 12:38 PM UTC
Mauro .. matey that thing has been biting at me to build it for yrs ,, trust me the plans are still there . just might have to do something about it for this campaign ,if we can get member number 10 then we will have a campaign .
Work always gets in the way of fun don't it

Hey ya Cap'n .. theres gonna be a heap more weird and strange showing up here . got one little file with 140+ pics of prototypes and strange ass machines in it and thats after only one day of hunting . think i have enough lol

Phill
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 02:25 AM UTC

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Cheers for that Bob ,,i think ya helped Sean too with the same post
Sean ,,yup thats a Studebaker LC4x4 ,, lets see what my books tells me about it ,, alrighty then ,this is what it has .
Truck 1 1/2-ton,4x4,cargo,low silhouette , (Studebaker LC4x4-125950,hercules JXD 6 cyl, 109hp engine,5F1Rx2 gears,WB,105in, 189 3/4 x 92 x 93 3/4 in, 9655lbs, Unusual platform desgin with driver positioned centrally in the front, front entrance, body length (inside) 161in, Pilot only. troop seating capacity for 17 men, front mounted winch had 5000lb capacity , out rigger engine on right hand side .
Thats all my little book has on it , has another pic of it without its one piece roof on it too.
Hope this helps ya out some .
...Phill


Phill, thanks again! That single pilot model of a Studebaker LC is very elusive on the internet. No other references at all for all my searching. I know this campaign is "no what-ifs", so I don't want to venture too far into guessing and conjecture! If nothing else, I may step back to that jeep with an aircraft canopy or just a straight M274 Mule from Dragon, if I catch one on E-bay.
Cheers, everyone!
-Sean H.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 05:02 AM UTC

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Phill, thanks again! That single pilot model of a Studebaker LC is very elusive on the internet. No other references at all for all my searching. I know this campaign is "no what-ifs", so I don't want to venture too far into guessing and conjecture! If nothing else, I may step back to that jeep with an aircraft canopy or just a straight M274 Mule from Dragon, if I catch one on E-bay.
Cheers, everyone!
-Sean H.



Sean.... Well, there is always the Rotabuggy. It definitely was built and tested, and looks to be a fairly simple conversion to build... At least compared to that Danish BARV...

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 08:17 AM UTC
For that matter, the Flying Humvee is coming soon (see Transformer TX project), with prototypes in the next 2 or 3 years. We'll see if any are feasible.
We can laugh about these "strange and weird" machines until we go to buy one ourselves sometime down the road.
-Sean H.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 04:54 PM UTC
All,
OK here's the names to go with the photos from my earlier post:
001 = Aardvark, Mine clearance
002 = Pookie, Mine detection
003 = Spinnekop, Mine exploder
004 = Bedford QL "Giraffe" early attempt at waterproofing
005 = Studebaker LC
006 = "Swampmaster"
007 = Ravaillier

Sean, heres a couple more views of the LC:



and for those with a spare Dodge WC kit laying around, heres an idea:



or for those with a passion for the "duck":


but one of my all time favourites has to be this oddity:






We need 1 more enlistee, come on folks come join the world of weird and wonderful
windysean
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 02:57 AM UTC
You've forced my hand. I'll do it, assuming we get one more brave volunteer and make this official (and it continues after 31 Dec 12 when most of my others end)!
Awesome photos to work from, thanks much, Casper!
Prost!
-Sean.
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 08:32 AM UTC
Roger ,, ya got some very cool things there mate .. that last "thing" is as weird as ,,what the hell is it for ? some over land come water torpedo which can't dive ?
Would sure make an interesting build thats for sure .

Phill