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vahleof
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 05:17 PM UTC
dunno if it's double post, but here is some idea:
if you have a skif t-64 lying around, you could build this Ukranian BMP-64
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and a bunch of prototypes and weird things, but good luck making them


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A joke
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I don't think anyone would make this one, but it's so epic:
An-12 on two T-62 chassis
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bwiber
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 05:46 PM UTC
Vincent....

Some very nice photos. Although I would really like to know what a couple of them are... they are the first and third mentioned below...

The first of the prototypes and weird things caught my eye... looks like a green electric train engine on wheels... any idea of the who and what of this one?

The two photos below that appear to be an M-44 series vehicle, and with the right information it looks very buildable.

The third is just above the An-12 on two T-62 chassis.... looks like a very sad beagle for some reason... any idea of the who and what of this one?

Some very nice ideas. I got to poking around and if I go off the deep end completely I happen to have a 1/24th scale Vespa scooter in the stack. All I would need to do is scratch build a recoilless rifle and some ammo containers. Would actually be more likely to build the M-44...

Bob
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 06:33 PM UTC
I'm in with a Sherman T1E3 Mineroller

Not sure if it'll be an M4A3 or a Tasca M4A1 with the Verlinden conversion







Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 11:04 PM UTC
Evening gents ... Bob if memory serves me right the second pic is what you think it is kinda .. its a 12x12 Mobil generator ,the hull is a converted train engine and its got a huge (i think ) V12 engine in the middle .
I think only two were ever built and both a sitting there rusting away and being stripped for parts .hence why the wheels are out of wack ,some suspension parts been nicked of it .
The AN12 sitting on the two T 62 chassis's is anyones guess and man talk about a over heavy landing gear .

Vincent ,, i loved the grand theft Somalia thats brilliant .
The M109 with that massive sound suppressor is always a cool pic

Phill
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 05:40 AM UTC
Well, I figured out what the sad beagle was....

Terrängbil m/42 KP (Tgbil m/42 SKP/VKP), meaning "Off-road vehicle [19]42" with a secondary designation of "Scania Bodywork, Armoured" or "Volvo Bodywork, Armoured", was the Swedish army's first armoured personnel carrier, developed as a stop-gap measure during World War II.

Even saw service....

The KP saw combat with Swedish UN forces during the Congo Crisis in the 1960s (Scania variant only). 15 KPs were also bought by the UN and used by the Indian and Irish battalions in Congo. An armoured, open top turret for the machine gunner was added to the KPs in Congo after a number of gunners were shot in the abdomen. KPs were also deployed by United Nations Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus during the Cypriot intercommunal violence

All that from Wikipedia....


The issue was not in finding it.... I just put in some search terms and looked at photos until I found it. The issue was all the other photos....... oh there are some real odd ones out there. I keep finding things I want to build and now have more candidates for this campaign than I have styrene...

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 09:32 AM UTC
Same problem here Bob and now looking at the Armorama home page i see a conversion for a T34 to turn it into a T34-100 ,,ok nothing strange about that but its cool and i am going to build there one way or another .
Ya know i think i have created a sort of monster here with all the ideas we want to build its driving us nuts which in todays world aint a good thing .
Oh well guess we can live with it

Phill
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 10:24 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Same problem here Bob and now looking at the Armorama home page i see a conversion for a T34 to turn it into a T34-100 ,,ok nothing strange about that but its cool and i am going to build there one way or another .
Ya know i think i have created a sort of monster here with all the ideas we want to build its driving us nuts which in todays world aint a good thing .
Oh well guess we can live with it

Phill



Phill,

Yeah, I think you created a real monster here.... but then I think that this time through will not be the last.

Who you calling nuts here fellow? We prefer Mentally Gifted in Odd Ways I will have you know...

I am seriously considering knocking out something quick and simple to qualify for the ribbon (be a real let down not to even earn a ribbon I designed ) and then dive into a more complex build for the rest of the time. As if I don't already have some lengthy builds lined up...

However, I am seriously looking at the M-44 or M-75 as I can use the running gear from a M-41 and go from there. Be something different from the normal Panzers I have been building...

Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 04:17 AM UTC
wow you guys are great researcher
I happen to have these pictures in the computer and I forgot the label their model/name on them such that I don't even know what are they
N.B. I really think that KP looks more like a sad hippo...just my 1 cent
another strange looking vehicle is that Danish M-41DK
the turret is almot as long as the hull
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Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 12:33 PM UTC
On the same boat here Bob ,,, the half track i want to build ain't whats gonna be called a long build ,fact its gonna be pretty easy so yes i am looking for something which will take longer too, and yep your right again ..ain't got the slightest idea what that might be

Vincent ,, totally agree with ya on the Danish M-41DK, hell with all the mods those guys have made its bloody hard to call it a M41 anymore

Phill
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Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 08:06 PM UTC
Figure that I can do something like the post-war Czech drivers training vehicle based on the Hetzer moderately quickly and that would allow me time to play with either the Danish BARV or scratch building either a M44 or M75 personnel carrier. Well, that is the semi-congealed plan in my fevered little mind....

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 09:27 AM UTC
Well i know one machine i will be building and thats the T64 based load carrier ,i have one of the old Skif kits so that will be used .to me its a very cool looking vehicle so gotta build it
But for the ribbon its gonna be the T17 or 16 half track ,nice ,easy but still cool .

Phill
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 05:05 PM UTC
glad you like the BMP-64
here is some more pictures
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Together with T-64E

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WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 06:05 PM UTC
Very nice pics Vincent mate ..in some pics you really cant get a scale of how big this thing really is ,,that pic of the bloke standing behind it clearly show its size ..oh you got me tempted now Vincent

Phill
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 06:58 PM UTC

Quoted Text

dunno if it's double post, but here is some idea:
if you have a skif t-64 lying around, you could build this Ukranian BMP-64



http://gspo.ru/lofiversion/index.php/t637-1900.html

http://photo.qip.ru/users/coast70/150430655/

http://shushpanzer-ru.livejournal.com/543609.html

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3344.html

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/land-forces/32082-new-ukrainian-bmp-bmp-64-a-11.html

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/land-forces/32082-new-ukrainian-bmp-bmp-64-a-2.html



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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 07:03 PM UTC
Hey Phill, I think they have your number...
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2012 - 09:27 PM UTC
Tell ya Bob these guys sure are an evil bunch and as for my number .. ya in huge letters on the side of the bay bridge ,, bugger

Oh if ya wanna check out something else i have been up to look for a post on the Armor AFV page called the beast returns ..just finished the building part of this monster for a friend .

Think you guys might like this one

Phill :-D
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Posted: Friday, March 02, 2012 - 10:56 AM UTC
Phill.... Well, I got my short build all lined up, and even found the victim, errrr, donor kit.

And this is for you and everyone....


You all might know about this but I just found it... a message string about Rare Types of Military Vehicles....

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?141892-Rare-types-of-military-vehicle

Now if you will excuse me... I have some rare stuff to check out...

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2012 - 03:09 PM UTC
Bob i finally got the time to check out that link you posted .
They had some different stuff on there ,,admittedly there wasn't many i hadn't seen already but i was glad with the surprises i did get ,, they got some nice big pics to help you out with your big ass M77 APC , damn that thing has some size to it dude

I look forward to what ever you build ,, as i bet you will with mine cause once i have clue what that might be i will tell you

Phill
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bwiber
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 12:49 PM UTC
Phill,

Not sure if either the M44 or the M75 were Weird or Strange enough.... HOWEVER.....



This puppy has to be..... If I can find the information needed I might just have to give it a shot... It is a Type 76 Counter-Battery Radar of the JGSDF... Would start with the tow vehicle first and then see about the radar trailer.

I have to admit even if I never get anything built that I am having a heck of a lot of fun looking, imagining and overall just planning. I think you deserve a big THANK YOU for the idea...

Bob
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 04:19 PM UTC
wonder what to do with the new HobbyBoss Mengshi?
you can make this
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a new Chinese 122 gun platform
WARDUKWNZ
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 10:23 PM UTC
Well bob i am glad your enjoying yourself matey ..enjoying yourself is all part of this hobby of ours and since its putting a smile on your chops its putting one on mine too
Oh dude that Type 76 Counter-Battery Radar is bloody cool , i think the chassis is based on one of their APC's cause the road wheels look too small for it to be a tank hull they used .
Screw the APC's man that is way cooler

Vincent ol mate ,, yup that thing is damn strange, the wheel layout gives good strength for the gun but dude it looks just plain terrible
Wonder in that layout if its any good doing any serious off road work .

Phill
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 08:16 AM UTC
Phill,

Yep, I think it is based on the Type 73... which the only kit I know about for that is a conversion from Etokin that runs way to much for me. They also have a Type 78 ARV that I would love to have.... but no way can I put that much into a model.

However, according to some drawings I found for the Type 75 MRL based on the same APC I can still use the Type 74 MBT road wheels, etc. All I have to do is make the model in 1/30th rather than 1/35th... which I don't see as a big difficulty actually. Most of the tools, etc. are fairly simple or can be modified from 1/32nd scale stuff.

Vincent..... definitely some wild ones you are showing us. Have to admit I just sat and looked at that last one for a while...

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 08:37 AM UTC

Quoted Text

dunno if it's double post, but here is some idea:
if you have a skif t-64 lying around, you could build this Ukranian BMP-64
26_118992_9a4f7004947216f

and a bunch of prototypes and weird things, but good luck making them


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A joke
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I don't think anyone would make this one, but it's so epic:
An-12 on two T-62 chassis
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This was used by Russians to carry their missiles. There were a topic about here on the site some time ago


Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 12:28 PM UTC
Mauro,, still strikes weird that thats a missile carrier .. its not long enough and i know that there's a massive v12 engine behind the cab ,, if i remember the pic's i've seen there's not entry in the rear end ,, i've got to find those pics again ,,let the hunt begin

Phill