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mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 04:19 AM UTC
Hi all I
Late last year's model in the country and around the hot hours waiting for my T-90, and many days of waiting I finally have it in my hands dc, dc you this before, I was the availability of the to the department for "crab eyes" because this item is a special form, so I set up more like a barrel of aluminum, chain left, if firm that the PE Voyager is always tried really hard to pop,
Making this a separate e will post the turret
This section is cut off after the details, then I glued the parts pasted die, they just assemble the remaining fast, convenient later when painting




Cut off the part of the "crab eyes",

I put my two irises for it, so when you turn the lights up, it will show what it really iris

wall behind the two holes I drilled a 3mm hole size = LED bulbs







HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 04:54 AM UTC
Neat concept on the Shtora laser jammers, but they are InfraRed, not visible red lights. They are not bright red when turned on, but look no different than when they are off.
mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 05:11 AM UTC

Actually I have seen your reference, the eye was done it was so bright, probably due to the camera,
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 05:36 AM UTC
It is either a retouched picture or the way the light is reflecting off the red lenses. They don't visibly light up though.
kruppw
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 06:08 AM UTC
Actually they do light up, their ment to blind and jam the incoming missle operator. Here is a youtube video of a T-90 in action with the lights powered up.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/video/LXIoDLVT-Jw-main-battle-tank-t90.aspx
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 07:16 AM UTC
Something is off then, either references or the system has undisclosed capabilities. So it is either not IR or it is both visible spectrum and IR. IR is invisible to both the human eye and cameras unless they are IR cameras.
kruppw
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 08:50 AM UTC
True IR can not be seen by the human eye, either way the two light are not IR. It is pssible that they can emit both spectrum of light, but then agian the russian are not going to release full campabilities to the general public. Nothing more than simple dazzlers, much light our non-lethal laser that law enforcement use. But then again who really uses IR guide weapons against tank, most everyhting optical, laser, or gps guide.

Either way good start on the build Dang Have you seen this build by Kyle Nelson?



He did the very thing you trying to build, he is his link

http://www.knminis.com/
floggerspam
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 02:55 PM UTC
I saw that beauty at AMPS Indiana.

John
mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 03:29 PM UTC
Update....









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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 05:45 PM UTC
Whew! That's one mean lookin' T-90!

It's interesting to see how you approached the construction of the IR Shtora lights. I wish I had taken more photos, as it would have been interesting to compare different approaches to the same issue. I wish my build looked as clean and neat as yours! Oh, and great job getting those 'pupils' to really pop out!

On a side note, does anyone know what happens to the covers of the IR lights when they are operational? Are they just stored in a box or something?

-Kyle

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mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 06:15 PM UTC
I'm sorry, I post missing image






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Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 09:54 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Neat concept on the Shtora laser jammers, but they are InfraRed, not visible red lights. They are not bright red when turned on, but look no different than when they are off.



Well Gino, looking at these videos they seem quite visible (time 3:45)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-bz3f0qiD5M

time 0:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QfvBtfpRao

Anyway I don't know if those actually are propaganda videos where the original lights have been substituted with some others which are fake but brighter. That could have been a clever expedient to show the tank more aggressive and threatening...


I was thinking about doing the same on mine, but I don't know anything about led techniques

Great jobs so far, I'll subscribe to this thread!
woody6968
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 10:21 PM UTC
hi there ,
great work on the turret and the leds look fantastic ,i love the blue one for gunners sight , very well done .
Karl187
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Posted: Monday, May 28, 2012 - 11:30 PM UTC
Even if they don't actually light up on the real thing it sure looks neat on the model. I saw Kyle Nelson's in photos and thought it looked awesome.

Dang- I have got to say I am loving your build at the moment, fantastic details and some neat scratch-building- great work!
Gorizont
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 03:22 AM UTC
Hi Dang, great build so far!
I love the scratch-built details and the electrics!

Regarding the IR-visibility:
Human eye can not see them, but CCD-sensors in cameras can see them.
But my cam shows the "light" of my TV-remote-controller in purple / lilac.
I used all "lighting-modes" (sunlight, cloud-covered, bulb-lamp and all others), but all showed it in the same color.



and



Possibly the "seen color" of the IR-light seems to be dependent on the type of sensor.

But the reddish-color of your jammers look great!!! Devilish!

I also think, that the jammers make some heat and glow reddish. Is that possible?

greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 04:09 AM UTC
Hi Dang,
great job, I like the idea of infra-red lghts lighting up,
although I have never seen it happen in real life.
Hi Soeren,
Infra-red equipment gets very hot,thats why we never used
it on our Chieftains in the 80s. It doesnt however glow,
unless you look at it through a Thermal Imaging System, and
using that even the underwear on cammoed grunts behind light
up!
Paul.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 04:50 AM UTC
Hi Dang,

Sweet build! Im looking forward to this build. I picked this kit up at a model show recently after watching Karl187 build his. Love what youve done so far.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 05:20 AM UTC
After watching the videos, the light seems to be larger than the houseing. but here is my question, why would you want the tank to light up as it would stand out as a target at night, great build though. The only way to answer this is to find a Russian tank driver and ask
Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 06:20 AM UTC
I think with them lighting up it certainly adds something to the build ... and I like it!

I'll have to keep these ideas in check for my next builds!

Very nice!









~ Jeff
mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 12:19 PM UTC
Hi all!
I would like to thank all who have commented, the Shtora Before doing this, I also consulted a number of information only found on the internet, and now also understand that maybe it will glow red when there is a what was that swept through, such as cameras, cameras, eye but never seen, so I do have greatly reduced the light intensity of LEDs, but when shooting up, it is light strong yellow light fell slightly,
Thank you!
I'll update next
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 07:35 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Dang, great build so far!
I love the scratch-built details and the electrics!

Regarding the IR-visibility:
Human eye can not see them, but CCD-sensors in cameras can see them.
But my cam shows the "light" of my TV-remote-controller in purple / lilac.
I used all "lighting-modes" (sunlight, cloud-covered, bulb-lamp and all others), but all showed it in the same color.



and



Possibly the "seen color" of the IR-light seems to be dependent on the type of sensor.

But the reddish-color of your jammers look great!!! Devilish!

I also think, that the jammers make some heat and glow reddish. Is that possible?

greetings...
Soeren



Many thanks for the explication Soeren, it must be so!

Gino and other guys. I apologize for posting a video that actually was already posted.

cheers
tomapaul
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 01:23 AM UTC
Great build log. Can't wait to see you paint it.
mohinhvietnam
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Posted: Saturday, August 25, 2012 - 02:35 PM UTC
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=189913&ord=&page=1

I do not have much documentation on the T-90, I also look at
and implement ways to lower hull for Zvezda kit to slightly higher

2-wheel-drive





done, it's like this

Nới rộng trục bnh dẫn động ra 4mm v hạ 3mm so với mẩu gốc


Reinforced wheel drive shaft and lowered 3mm, I reinforced ABS plastic plate pieces


mi dũa sau khi trm trt








To the front lower hull armor








cut 2 latch

It's like this











I bought it the metal track, aluminum barrel, gun smoke,