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my vision of the anti-slip
superfrelon
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Seine-et-Marne, France
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 04:34 AM GMT+7
hello to all modelers

I will make you enjoy my little technical concerant anti-slip.
For that I use the Mr Surfacer 500 or 1000, Acetone and Sodium Bicarbonate.

doses and 50 50/acetone Mr Sufacer.

to delineate areas for protection I use wood glue diluted slightly mixed with a little acrylic paint, after drying to see the demarcated areas.

Examples in pictures

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flugwuzzi
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Lower Austria, Austria
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 06:47 AM GMT+7
thx a lot for your nice hint and the clear photos.
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Sodium bicarbonate looks good for modern antiskid.
Maybe I can use something more grainy for idf antiskid?

cheers
Walter
superfrelon
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Seine-et-Marne, France
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 07:48 AM GMT+7
I ride the Merkava III Meng, I'll post pictures of results ... I think in a short week ....

Thank you for your message ...
superfrelon
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 09:04 AM GMT+7
Here are a complement of photos ....

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And M1132 AFV Club / Blast Models













Warrior ICV









Thank you and see you soon

arpikaszabo
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Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 03:25 PM GMT+7
Thank You for posting this, I will use this method a lot, it is perfect.
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 12:52 AM GMT+7
Hi,

Great technique, I'll have to try it on my MENG Merkava!

Your Amtrac looks positively gorgeous by the way.

Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 12:54 AM GMT+7
@moderators.

This would make a great article, hint, hint!

Cheers,

Christophe
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 04:22 AM GMT+7

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doses and 50 50/acetone Mr Sufacer.



So the recipe is a half of Sodium Bicarbonate and a half of diluted Mr Surafacer isn't it?

I'll give it a try for sure, thanks a lot for sharing

Cheers
superfrelon
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 04:48 AM GMT+7

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doses and 50 50/acetone Mr Sufacer.



So the recipe is a half of Sodium Bicarbonate and a half of diluted Mr Surafacer isn't it?

I'll give it a try for sure, thanks a lot for sharing

Cheers



No, you made ​​50/50 with Mr Surfacer and Acetone, and then you add your powder (I use bicarbonate as the result is correct for 1/35, except for vehicles IDF or the larger grain size and there I will propose another technique to retrieve the grain of sand on sandpaper).

Thank you for having followed this post .....
kamikaze
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Constanta, Romania
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 05:44 AM GMT+7
I heard of a similar technique, but instead of mr. surfacer you use paint (enamel). You paint the area where you want to add the anti-slip and then, while the paint is still wet you sprinkle the bicarbonate ( or whatever you want to use ). I didn't tried it but I think it's ok.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 06:38 AM GMT+7

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doses and 50 50/acetone Mr Sufacer.



So the recipe is a half of Sodium Bicarbonate and a half of diluted Mr Surafacer isn't it?

I'll give it a try for sure, thanks a lot for sharing

Cheers



No, you made ​​50/50 with Mr Surfacer and Acetone, and then you add your powder (I use bicarbonate as the result is correct for 1/35, except for vehicles IDF or the larger grain size and there I will propose another technique to retrieve the grain of sand on sandpaper).

Thank you for having followed this post .....



'Right, I've got it now, thanks a lot for the further explanation. I think I'll made some trials using baking soda, commomn sand and talcum powder. I'd like to buy the Merkava made by Meng so I'll have to do some practice before

Cheers

juljon
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 11:30 AM GMT+7
Hi All,

My method is using a non toxic household product with acrylic paint as primer and water based wood glue.
The substance used is ground cinnamon and when dry it looks rough and too scale.

Regards

Julian
arpikaszabo
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 12:28 PM GMT+7
It is possible to use haispray as glueing medium. While it was wet, I sprinkled it quickly with chinchilla sand, then sealed it with Surfacer spray 1000. I would use this method only for IDF armor. Its drawdack is that the sand makes a huge mess, so I switched over to Tamiya textured sand paint. It is very controllable and clean. The effect is slightly out of scale, but I want my merkavas to be rough. I will post my progress in a blog soon.
The topic author's method for US antislip seems unbeatable to me.
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 01:08 PM GMT+7

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Its drawdack is that the sand makes a huge mess



I think I'll try using this incredibly sophisticated tool...




...joking aside I guess It could be useful

arpikaszabo
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 01:26 PM GMT+7

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I think I'll try using this incredibly sophisticated tool...



Outsmarted, again
Spiderfrommars
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Posted: Friday, June 01, 2012 - 01:56 PM GMT+7

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I think I'll try using this incredibly sophisticated tool...



Outsmarted, again



Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:14 PM GMT+7
Don't used salt over unprimered (PE) photo etch. As it will react with the brass of your photo etch parts.
panorama
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Posted: Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 04:51 PM GMT+7
Thanks for sharing your technique. It looks very, very convincing. Apart from 1:35 I am still pondering over a technique I can use in Braille scale.
Anyone with a suggestion?
If I just leave out the soda from your recipe and use Mr. Surfacer 500?
I will try.
I will keep you updated on the result

Michael