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Dragon M1A1 AIM #3535
amoz02t
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Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 01:39 AM GMT+7
Jim, I did not see the "extras" in my "new" kit of the 3535. I assume someone is smiling down on you and your efforts!
junglejim
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Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 12:03 AM GMT+7
I got my re-issued kit from HobbyEasy yesterday; found out that the 'goodie bag' was pretty heavy, seems they doubled up on a few things in my kit. Anyone else find extras? Too bad there wasn't an extra fret of the main p.e., or the fender springs!



Jim
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 11:31 AM GMT+7

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Bummer... that really limits the subjects you can build. Pretty much eliminates any OIF tank (post 2003) as well as current / Aussie tanks.

They have the BRE available, wish they could have included it with the new kit.



Not all post '03 M1A1 AIMs had the BRE. Depending on which one you are building, you don't need it. Check your references.

If you must have the BRE, there are AM ones available from others besides Eduard. ET Model has one that is pretty nice and much easier to build (ET 35-042).







jasmils
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 11:23 AM GMT+7
You can still build the Australian M1A1 AIM SA out of the Dragon 3535 kit. You just need to do a bit more work here and there. M1A1 AIM SA out of the Dragon 3535 kit
Ellevenbravo
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Posted: Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 12:38 AM GMT+7
Bummer... that really limits the subjects you can build. Pretty much eliminates any OIF tank (post 2003) as well as current / Aussie tanks.

They have the BRE available, wish they could have included it with the new kit.


amoz02t
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 10:57 PM GMT+7
Thanks Gino. I was not aware of the newer one as 11B stated.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 10:49 PM GMT+7
Yup, that is the same PE set for the 3ID BRE and jerry can racks that was in the prior release. It represents a rack that was only used on 2 BDE, 3 ID tanks from PrePo Draw in Kuwait (APS 5). The racks were locally made and only used during the initial invasion of Iraq in '03.

Elevenbravo is talking about the folding BRE that is in Dragon's M1A2 SEP kit (below), which became standard on M1A1 AIMs in about 04-05.



On a USMC Abrams
amoz02t
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 10:23 PM GMT+7

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What I haven't seen mentioned is whether or not the "new" kit comes with an extended turret storage rack.

The old one did not and as such, you could not represent pretty much any tank post-2003. The only other option is to purchase the Eduard PE rack which is both expensive and near impossible to assemble.




Is this the extension you asked about (step 16)? Seems like this PE was in the old and new release of 3535.
junglejim
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 10:58 AM GMT+7

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Couldn't you use this instead? The hull is the same as Dragons 3535



Not quite, the M1 Panther doesn't have the proper NBC cover plate and side panel like the M1A1, being built from an M1 hull. See this photo on Prime Portal . It's good for a basic M1 build though!

Jim
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 08:05 AM GMT+7
What I haven't seen mentioned is whether or not the "new" kit comes with an extended turret storage rack.

The old one did not and as such, you could not represent pretty much any tank post-2003. The only other option is to purchase the Eduard PE rack which is both expensive and near impossible to assemble.

seanmcandrews
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Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2014 - 07:52 AM GMT+7
It would work but the hull of 3535 is new tool if I recall.

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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 08:24 PM GMT+7

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Now I can get a base vehicle for the M1 ABV. RIGHT?



Any M1A1 kit will work as a base vehicle for an M1 ABV conversion.
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 05:56 PM GMT+7
Couldn't you use this instead? The hull is the same as Dragons 3535
Just a thought

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/m1-panther-ii/DML00003534/product.php?s=0&t=2&u=10&pg=1&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber&so=a&era=7,8&ct=1&sc=35
AikinutNY
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 05:35 PM GMT+7
Now I can get a base vehicle for the M1 ABV. RIGHT?
aristeidis
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 11:32 AM GMT+7
According to Dragon: new parts such as the CROWS II weapon station, new commander’s cupola and the Loader’s Armored Gun Shield II for his hatch. There’s a rear-mounted tank-infantry phone, plus an FBCB2 system and a DUKE electronic counter measure system installed in the bustle rack. So believe that both M1A2 SEP and M1A2 SEP V2 can be build from their new release!
Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 04:20 AM GMT+7
Thanks for the info, Aristeidis.. I saw the news about the V2, but I thought it was something totally different than the first (3536).. So, I'll look forward to that one

Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 03:48 AM GMT+7
Scalehobbyist is where I do a good deal of my purchasing, so I'm glad to see that they have it in stock. I'm really torn on if I should pull the trigger on this though. It's a kit I've had my eye on for quite some time, but the timing is bad. It's getting to be that time of year where the wife (who is wonderfully supportive of my hobby) gets annoyed when I buy things for myself, as I am apparently supposed to wait and put it on a Christmas list.
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 03:44 AM GMT+7

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I was hoping they would re-issue the M1A2 SEP (3536), as I already have this one

Hisham


Hisham i believe that Dragon will release according to Europe stores in December the M1A2 SEP V2 (System Enhanced Program) (#DML3556). So it should be the #3536 with futher pieces like crows system etc!
Hisham
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Posted: Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 12:04 AM GMT+7
I was hoping they would re-issue the M1A2 SEP (3536), as I already have this one

Hisham
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2014 - 11:32 PM GMT+7
And in the US,stocked here:

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Military_Vehicles/m1a1-abrams-a-i-m/DML00003535/product.php?s=0&t=2&u=10&micr=23&pg=1&ppp=48&sb=stocknumber&so=a&era=7,8&ct=1&sc=35
Hisham
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Posted: Friday, October 31, 2014 - 11:07 PM GMT+7
Hobbyeasy has restocked this kit, if anyone is looking for one

Hisham
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 04:26 PM GMT+7
^ That's a pretty picture.
ProfessorP
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 04:03 PM GMT+7
FYI, the Magic Tracks provided in the kit were never noted by the group as "incorrect" for the TR build because of their solid guide teeth and as such, I personally did not research this aspect of the build. However, now that it is mentioned, a quick Google image search has revealed several shots of TR era M1s with open guide teeth. One example is here:



If you look closely you can see daylight through the guide teeth.
amoz02t
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 04:02 PM GMT+7
You would have to verify tank by tank. Both the T-158 and T-158LL tracks were in use during the OIF 1 (invasion of Iraq, early '03) time period.[/quote]

Understood. Must have ground thru a lot of track at that period of 2003. Thanks Gino
amoz02t
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 03:59 PM GMT+7
Don - Thank you for the insight from one who knows! So I assume somehow adapting to the solid center tooth (with a filler?)T-158 track would be appropriate modification to the kit? Very much looking forward to seeing your entry with the others in the Museum TR display. All the best, Stuart