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JGMT 1:48 Caudron C460
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Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 10:25 AM UTC
On August 8, 1934, Helene Boucher take off to fly as soon as possible on a 3km circuit. Two pylons mark the each ends. With his blue Caudron marked with number 13, she beats internationnal reccord speed over 1000km on all cathegory at an average speed of 409.187km/h.

On August 11, 1934 she broke the world speed reccord and became the "quickest human of the world" at the speed of 445.028km/h.


She died at an early age of 26 on a test flight near Versailles when the machine crashed into the woods of Guyancourt.





Hélène Boucher La fiancée de l’air, Bernard Marck






The Kit JMGT 1/48 : Caudron C460



....which I hope will become a C450.


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Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 10:33 AM UTC
I did the 1/32 Williams Brothers kit of this one years ago, and it was small in that scale! This one will be very entertaining to watch
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Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 01:02 PM UTC
I'll second that! It looks very interesting.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 07:20 PM UTC
Hello,
I waited for more than a year the new Williams Brothers Caudron.
Williams Brothers sent me an email to confirm the presence of the decoration No. 13 Helene Boucher.

Finally, 1/48 will be good...

Regards.



1/32 C450

1/32 C561
Louis
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 07:42 AM UTC
Hello,


The kit is very well packed.
I did not see any bubbles in the resin.


Some pictures:

The seat....beautiful:



The floor:



Trim wheel:





The door and the control stick:



The instrument panel, very small:





An engine cylinder which is visible through the hole of the cover:










The landing gear in a single part. I see no trace of mold, even with a magnifying glass!




The very thin wing:



A resin part gives the dihedral wings and spacing. The aircraft fuselage slips between the wings.

It's very clever.



I think the engraved lines are a little wide...





The canopy, "smooth" :





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Louis
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Posted: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 09:19 AM UTC
The caudron will be part of a diorama with a figure representing Hélène Boucher. I hope ...

I start with the figure. If it is missed, I will build the Caudron of the box.

I used the method explained here but in french (there are lots of photos):

http://maquette-garden.forumactif.com/t22199-la-sculpture-de-figurine-ou-comment-j-y-arrive


First:

A metal skeleton with the fairest possible proportions.
I use these templates:
http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=gabaritproportion.pdf&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Favangard.unblog.fr%2Ffiles%2F2010%2F07%2Fgabaritproportion.pdf&ei=4YeBUarxHIeJ7AaA8YGYAg&usg=AFQjCNFLkWajZdyjOq4hd3UUA0RKluL8wQ&bvm=bv.45921128,d.d2k






The figure out of the plane while standing on the fuselage. The other hand is on the head,she takes off her "headband wearing" (?)




Colette Duval: http://www.britishpathe.com/video/model-jump-aka-model-drop

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Louis
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Posted: Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 06:21 AM UTC
Muscles are made of milliput then dressed.






This is a long process because you have let it dry regularly.



Sometimes you have to resize ...








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Louis
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Posted: Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 09:18 AM UTC
Several working days to an ugly head:





The milliput is very difficult to model for small details. It dries quickly and is too soft.

So I bought Super Sculpey (it becomes hard in an oven at 130 ° C). This becomes much easier and pleasant to work with.


After one hour of work:



After reworked head and a lot of work:



The nose is too wide and it does not look like Helen Boucher, but I can not do better.








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Posted: Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 09:47 AM UTC
Greetings Louis!

Your builds always stir up excitement around here. Also another excellent sculpt on the female figure. Model On please!
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 04:29 AM UTC
Thank you Stephen.










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Posted: Friday, May 10, 2013 - 12:51 AM UTC
Louis,

Very intriguing build so far! Please, continue! I will closely follow your build. What a nice choice of subject!

All the best,
Entoni

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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 06:27 AM UTC
At first I wanted to dress this figure. Unfortunately it's too sexy....(There is another lying on a carpet .)



http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/catalogsearch/result/?q=32mm+&x=0&y=0&cat=








I use the photos found on the internet and documents published in "Le Fana de l'Aviation" 146-149 and 188



The nose is refined and cheeks were "rounded"




Now I have problems with the facial surface ...

By scraping and sanding the surface of the nose, it has become a bit "fluffy" as covered in dust grains in places.

- Is there is a way to smooth the surface after passing the oven?? (Other than "micro-mesh" or sandpaper).


- An airbrush hit with a primer or putty (surfacer 1200) appear to he a good idea?





The landing gear is almost finished ..







My wheel rims are irregular and undulate slightly.
On the other hand it is redone.



A plastic sheet (0.1mm) is glued around the landing gear to make the recessed portion that slides.




Engraving is filled with Surfacer. It will be rebuilt.



The door is open.




The slots are upside: the round part must be to the rear.....


The wall of the interior is refined with sandpaper:







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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 06:09 AM UTC
I tried sanding the fuselage to obtain the trough between the "rails" of the fuselage ...I glued the sand paper to a piece of rounded plastic part and use two flat guides for a horizontal trough. It does not work ....



So I'm using "roadrunner's" method :

http://fighters.forumactif.com/t55753p15-caudron-c460-jmgt-1-48?highlight=caudron+c460





The adhesive tape (Dymo) serves has to position the plate







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Louis
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 10:40 AM UTC
Louvres are redone with a piece of alu of food box (In the right direction). They are pushed with one tooth pick.






The blue adhesive tape serves as guide.






Some surfacer...Rivets are to be moved


The result could be better.

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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 03:20 PM UTC
Beautiful work!
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 08:04 AM UTC
Thank you!
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 08:06 AM UTC
Thank you very much!

Thank you very much to Patrick for his plans (the same as the link below) and photos:

http://www.master194.com/maquettes/patrick/caudron/index.htm


The cockpit is almost finished.

The edges are refined as possible.


The vertical "ribs" are added to the upper part of the fuselage. I'm not certain that it existed. In the photos we vaguely guess some shadows ...
The most prominent is useless, a mistake.
Closest to opening the passenger will receive the dashboard and will be invisible except 1 mm ...


The chair is resized a little to have a flatter and less rounded back. No photos of true anyway ...



The dashboard .... I have nothing small enough to fill it properly. I cheat.



The bottle (CO2 ?) To get the train ...
It is true that for a fixed gear aircraft ...That's the plan!



The throttle is moved back from the kit. The curve is flattened tin wire in a metal ruler.

The control system components. On the map it is a crank. I chose to use a steering wheel as in the kit.




Everything is painted light gray or blue-gray.
The pillow of the seat is in red that makes more sport and I like.

Of course you can hardly see anything:







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Louis
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 08:14 AM UTC
Google translate to you an article from Adrien:

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75635&p=884417#p884417



"But I have some doubts about the design of the cockpit:
- The throttle should it be left?
- I think the big wheel is the c.362 and not to C.450/460
- Left in place there would be a rectangular box with a simple crank to control flaps which apparently he coupled adjustment incidence stabilizer.

I refer you scan a bit better plan than you ever had, and a layout of the dashboard. The plans are by Harry Robinson, published among others in [i] Aircraft Archive: Famous Racing and Aerobatic Planes [/ i], but available to my knowledge. There is a small error legendary crank flap is not where it is shown (it is inaccessible to the driver), and I will also put a time diagram showing the shutter mechanism.

Finally, I send you a picture of the dashboard of c.450 published in Volume 2 of the book Hauet, which is no longer available.








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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 08:16 AM UTC
Amazing work Louis – the attention to detail, the sculpting – all very top notch!

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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 08:27 AM UTC
Thank you.

If we look at the previous photo:

The opening above the dashboard is rounded off and shorter

The dashboard is very close to the trapdoor of access of the plane ( the door).

We guess it on the following photo:


On my Caudron it is much more far. It is impossible to affect(touch) the dashboard or the instruments.

And it is true that we do not see a throttle control to the right.

Although???



Do you know that is this instrument (in red) and what he(it) marked there above?
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 11:23 AM UTC
Very cool work Louis! I can really apreciate the extra mile you are going in this build.
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 09:04 PM UTC
Thank you very much Stephan.

That would be the throttle??





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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 09:05 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thank you very much Stephen.

That would be the throttle??
Regards.






Definately a type of lever usually associated with air / fuel mix adjustment. Therefor increasing or decreasing the revs for a motor.


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Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 07:34 PM UTC
The new Caudron from Williams Brothers ?






MARKINGOPTIONS: One decal sheet with markings for 5 versions:

1) 1936 Thompson Trophy Los Angeles USA: 1st Place
2) 1936 Coupe Deutsch de la Meurthe France: 1st Place
3) 1935 Coupe Deutsch de la Meurthe France: 1st Place
4) 1934. Coupe Deutsch de la Meurthe France: 3rd Place
5) 1934 Coupe Deutsch de la Meurthe France: 1st Place
1934 2 World Records set by a Woman - Helene Boucher
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2013 - 06:24 AM UTC
A translation of the article on :

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75635&start=25

From waroff:

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75635&start=25

"The steering wheel on the right (366), or to the left crank (450/460 ...) simultaneously actuates the shutters and fixed plane.
The small angular sector that you have shown to the right is not the throttle.
it would rather be in the position indicator soffit panel and incidence of fixed plane, it would be right on 366 and left at 450/460, the same side as the control, what).

The drawing shows the layout of Robinson on the left side, as if the coating was removed."

From "C460":

"We see a little better on the printed book on the scan. The rectangular box that surrounded you left behind, you can guess the words "POUR PIQUER" (to go into a dive )arc of circle with an arrow, and "FIX" below, probably the end of "PLAN FIXE". I think it is a control to adjust the fixed plane only, without touching the components. We can not see if there is a crank, flywheel or other.

A little more before it looks that there is a lever that you pressed in red on the other image. As against the circular area that you drew in the shadow does not appear on the photo.

On the other picture from the same book there is something right that actually looks very much like a throttle with its sector. So I wonder what is the left lever, maybe lift control trains."



http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75635&start=25

From "Waroff":


The small angular sector that you have shown to the right is not the throttle.
it would rather be in the position indicator soffit panel and incidence of fixed plane, it would be right on 366 and left at 450/460, the same side as the control, what).

From "C460" : Very true, also for the C.366 is described in the document below (Aeronautics July 1934):



Thank you C460 and Warrof.

Regards.