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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 - 07:13 AM UTC

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The handles for most of the tools were made out of Bakelite. Thus not wood. Hope this helps in your next adventure.


Trevor, do you have some documentation for that? I have the pick axe, shovel and ax handles as made of wood, though often painted (green?).



Actually Mig's 'AMMO' brand has a color for a terracotta colored bakelite in the new tools set. It's called something different on the site but the box shows it as bakelite.

I personally don't have any documentation but I just found out about it last night and think its odd that it's come up twice in twelve hours and it adds some credibility to it. I'm sure late war bakelite was a lot less labor intensive than milling a stick into a durable tool handle.



http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=186270&page=1

May help. I did hear, some years ago that Germany did use bakelite for ovm tools.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 - 07:45 AM UTC
Yes, the wire cutters are bakelite, I painted them red-brownish color, but I wonder is this the case for the shovel, axe etc.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 - 09:33 AM UTC
This all seems very odd. I'd take some convincing that tool handles were made from anything other than wood, especially late war. After all it was readily available, easy to manufacture and we're still using wood as the first choice 70 years later.

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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 - 11:06 AM UTC

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This all seems very odd. I'd take some convincing that tool handles were made from anything other than wood, especially late war. After all it was readily available, easy to manufacture and we're still using wood as the first choice 70 years later.


Given that Germany was making softskin cabs out of wood by this point in the war, I agree. The wire cutters are definitely another matter, but the production BS associated with making az and shovel handles from anything but wood seems unlikely. I'd need some documentation before doing things differently.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2014 - 12:17 PM UTC
A quick loot at Wiki;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite

states that it is non-conductive, adding further merit to the possibility that the wire cutters were sometimes bakelite.

Also a look through David Miller's Fighting Men of WWII; Axis Forces shows a number of handgun at various times of production with bakelite grips. The Germans did like their bakelite....

EDIT:

Found this right now;

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1256469386/German+AFV+wire+cutters

And this;

http://fieldgear.org/cutters.htm

clearly wood in that second one but other photos are to smooth to be wooden handles.

And another site claiming bakelite handles;

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Heer/Photos/H039468.html
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Posted: Saturday, February 15, 2014 - 09:21 PM UTC
I will leave the handles wooden, only cutters will be bakelite, that's it .
Some effects added-wash, streaking (incl. rust on some places) and chipping with Dunkelgelb for the green and brown areas, and chipping color for the yellow ones.















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Posted: Thursday, February 20, 2014 - 01:49 AM UTC
Some oils, most of OVM added, fuel and oil stains. I made rainmarks with oil paint Buff. Spare tracks are painted with AK Dark tracks, then light touch with Rusty tracks and some pigments from Agama









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Posted: Saturday, February 22, 2014 - 01:14 AM UTC
I made the MG 34 mount on the commander cupola from scratch and some parts from the Voyager set. On some places I used soldering for stronger bond, it will not be visible after the primer and paint. First image is of the etched mount-pretty two dimensional
All is fully workable









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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 - 11:39 PM UTC
AK Dust and Earth effects, some pigments and oil stains on the wheels. I don't want too heavy weathering here







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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:11 AM UTC
This build demonstrates great technical skill. As you know I am going to paint my Tiger this colour scheme when its eventually completed, I hope that it looks as good as this.

Then again my Tiger will take another decade to complete
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Posted: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 - 01:41 AM UTC
Thanks, Steven!
I'm following your build also, with great interest, and the work that you put in the interior is fantastic. Can't wait for the painting job though

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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2014 - 07:56 PM UTC
Tracks are assembled and painted, the weathering is next







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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2014 - 08:03 PM UTC
Tracks are put on, pigments and AK effects on them, steel pigment polished on contact surfaces. Some more weathering will be added to unify all, MG 34 on commander's cupola, figures and will wait for the diorama











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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2014 - 08:24 PM UTC
Your Tiger is looking great, very impressive
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 - 04:53 AM UTC
Excellent work. How did you find the AFV tracks? I have had such terrible luck with plastic links tracks.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 - 05:17 AM UTC

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Excellent work. How did you find the AFV tracks? I have had such terrible luck with plastic links tracks.



Thanks!
AFV Club tracks have very nice detail, but are tedious to clean and assemble. Mine tracks had flash and ejector pin marks on every link (maybe wasn't lucky ). Will not use them again though, too much work needed. But I bought them (based on review on Perthmilitarymodelling site) and decided to use them . Next time will use MasterClub resin tracks for sure, think they are the best.

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Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2014 - 08:39 PM UTC
Some pictures from different angles. The figure (from Dragon's "Hohenstaufen division") is only for scale comparison, it's not finished yet and will be in another diorama . I will use Alpine Waffen SS Panzer crew.












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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2014 - 02:52 AM UTC
Lovely work!
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2014 - 04:10 AM UTC
Th MG mount is amazing!
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2014 - 04:53 AM UTC
A very nice clean build sir. Looks good. Can't wait to see it cresting a ridge with the 88 fully lowered and coming to bear on it's next target or busting through a hedgerow or whatever you have planned for it. Good figure too. Looks like your skills are solid on the figure front as well as the armor.

Good work!

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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2014 - 05:20 AM UTC
Thank you, it's very encouraging!

Christopher, it's first time I'm doing such thing (MG mount) and I like how it turns out and it's workable . Only one spare MG34 is necessary to finish it

Dave, it will be a diorama, but later, I have another to finish .

Cheers and enjoy the hobby
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2014 - 11:44 PM UTC
Hi, can I use Vallejo Panzer aces 16 color set 70179 for painting all SS camouflage patterns (oak leaf, dot, autumn etc.), is it comprehensive?
I have already 8 color sets 70128 and 70129 for flesh, splinter and Afrika korps camo.

http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/panzer-aces-camouflage/family/16/46

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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 01:39 AM UTC
I will use this set of Alpine figures for the Tiger

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/figures/alpine/alpine35032.htm

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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 05:31 AM UTC
One more thing -I've red somewhere in the forum that SS crews in the West didn't wore reversible camouflage uniforms as shown on one of the figures (spring/autumn), but can't remember exactly where. Is that correct or I'm wrong?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 - 07:11 AM UTC
That's because they wore the U-Boat service's uniforms: