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165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 04:59 AM UTC
I have to apologize to you Matt, in that I knew of your work on those cable reels posted on Shapeways but failed to show a notice here! I am sorry as I meant to and just never got around to it.
matt
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:06 AM UTC
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I have to apologize to you Matt, in that I knew of your work on those cable reels posted on Shapeways but failed to show a notice here! I am sorry as I meant to and just never got around to it.
No harm, no foul!! I just my Job would let me work on the shapeways stuff more... but alas 50+ hour weeks makes you want to take the weekend to yourself.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:09 AM UTC
I will admit having a source for that front mounted Darley water pump would force me to get off my duff on converting a hard cab Italeri CCKW water truck into a Chevy 2-axle military fire truck!
I was not looking forward to scratch building this pump!
I was not looking forward to scratch building this pump!
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:23 AM UTC
Matt, I doubt that these photos will give you any information that you don't already have but just in case:
(and I do realize I am repeating some images already posted at the beginning of this thread.)
This last image is of an earlier design pump - or possibly a different manufacture.
(and I do realize I am repeating some images already posted at the beginning of this thread.)
This last image is of an earlier design pump - or possibly a different manufacture.
matt
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:45 AM UTC
More pics never hurt!!
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:58 AM UTC
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:59 AM UTC
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:00 AM UTC
Options to build 3-axle trucks as well!
Note: Super Single tires! Also note that some of these trucks will still utilize the more common split GM designed differential but some with use the round "pumpkin or Banjo" style differentials. Most, but not all, 2-axle Chevys will call for the round style. These are available as After Market items in resin.
Note: Super Single tires! Also note that some of these trucks will still utilize the more common split GM designed differential but some with use the round "pumpkin or Banjo" style differentials. Most, but not all, 2-axle Chevys will call for the round style. These are available as After Market items in resin.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:05 AM UTC
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:10 AM UTC
Options for Ford trucks as well!
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:15 AM UTC
Plus options to convert the soon to be available Ward La France wrecker from Thunder Hobbies:
And the HobbyBoss White 666/Brockway cargo truck.
And the HobbyBoss White 666/Brockway cargo truck.
nick_pal
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 07:35 PM UTC
And theres the Australian bushmaster turned "fireking" for Forestry S.A. im fortunate enough to drive one of these and they are the best 4wd ive ever driven! (Even better than my hilux) Would add a pic but not sure how.
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 08:40 PM UTC
nick_pal
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 09:52 PM UTC
Almost that exact one.. 34 alpha mount lofty ranges is the one i usually drive based just south of Adelaide, South Australia. Looks like it might be another long, hot, dry summer here!
165thspc
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Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - 05:29 AM UTC
Guys, while admittedly not WWII era trucks, you spoke of what good 4WD vehicles these are.
Is there anything unusual about the driveline or suspension we (I) might want to know about?
Is there anything unusual about the driveline or suspension we (I) might want to know about?
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - 08:21 AM UTC
Here's the Bushmaster Fireking sale brochure (courtesy Warwheels.net) :
http://warwheels.net/images/BushmasterFireking2008ThalesBrochure.pdf
More about the Bushmaster family of vehicles :
http://warwheels.net/BushmasterIMVindex.html
The Bushmaster is fitted with AxleTech's 4000 Series ISAS axles and suspensions :
https://www.axletech.com/at-admin/resources/Literature/axletech-isas-overview-brochure-letterweb.pdf
H.P.
http://warwheels.net/images/BushmasterFireking2008ThalesBrochure.pdf
More about the Bushmaster family of vehicles :
http://warwheels.net/BushmasterIMVindex.html
The Bushmaster is fitted with AxleTech's 4000 Series ISAS axles and suspensions :
https://www.axletech.com/at-admin/resources/Literature/axletech-isas-overview-brochure-letterweb.pdf
H.P.
165thspc
#521
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 03:40 AM UTC
Clearly that axle design is a take off of the bigger Oshkosh designs used for their HEMTT, Mk23s, MRAPs and Oshkosh fire trucks. (Just giving credit where credit is due!)
DG0542
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 04:20 AM UTC
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Clearly that axle design is a take off of the bigger Oshkosh designs used for their HEMTT, Mk23s, MRAPs and Oshkosh fire trucks. (Just giving credit where credit is due!)
Is the TAk4 a Pierce design or an Oshkosh design that pierce is using? All the non-HeMTT based or crash trucks with the Oshkosh name are actually built by Pierce.
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 04:41 AM UTC
Isn't Pierce now owned by Oshkosh (or vice versa)?????
I just Googled the question: Pierce Fire Equipment is a wholly owned subsidiary of Oshkosh Heavy Equipment Corp.
I just Googled the question: Pierce Fire Equipment is a wholly owned subsidiary of Oshkosh Heavy Equipment Corp.
DG0542
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 05:34 AM UTC
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Isn't Pierce now owned by Oshkosh (or vice versa)?????
I just Googled the question: Pierce Fire Equipment is a wholly owned subsidiary of Oshkosh Heavy Equipment Corp.
Yes, but there is designs that are Oshkosh and some that is Pierce I was just wondering which side the TAK4 came from. They do share Tech.
Also Darley still makes fire pumps, they are one of the few that still do.
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 08:07 AM UTC
I have studied both the Oshkosh and Pierce axle designs for a special model I built and I cannot tell much if any difference. I guess there might some minor differences however, in that I have heard the 3-axle fire engines with all wheel steer have been experiencing some over steer/under steer problems that the military models don't seem to be having.
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2018 - 08:10 AM UTC
Link to Armorama model thread covering Oshkosh Mk23 8x8 LHS:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/252818&ord=&page=1
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/252818&ord=&page=1
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