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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 06:39 PM UTC
Careful on that tire size. The tractor was designed to fit either 12.00-20 or 14.00-20 tires, as opposed to the smaller 10.00-22 used on the prime mover.

The Dragon Wagon used 14.00-24. I'm not sure they would have fit on the 666.

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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 06:43 PM UTC

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What is the standard tire size? The standard ones look to be the same size as M54/M800/M900 series 5 ton tires/wheels. They look really nice too.



10.00-22, Standard construction. I think it might be a obsolete size. The M939 series uses 10.00-20 or 10.00 x R20.

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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 08:30 PM UTC
On a side note, a diecast 1/48th 666 tractor had been released some time ago by Hart :







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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2015 - 09:21 PM UTC

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Careful on that tire size. The tractor was designed to fit either 12.00-20 or 14.00-20 tires, as opposed to the smaller 10.00-22 used on the prime mover.

The Dragon Wagon used 14.00-24. I'm not sure they would have fit on the 666.

Pat
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Pat I am going to refrain from weighing in on the tire size question as I would be on shaky ground reference wise. All I will say is the style of the larger rims used post-war on the 666 appears to be the same/similar to those used on the Dragon Wagon.

I will play around with a spare set of DW tires and rims tonight but I suspect you are correct.
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 06:23 AM UTC
Tonight I added some brake lines to the the rear axles as well as some electrical taillight wiring.



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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 06:27 AM UTC
Also added brake lines to the front wheels and a fuel line to the fuel filter on the left front frame member.




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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 02:37 PM UTC
Hi Mick

Do you already know what you will hook it up to ?

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 06:14 PM UTC
A suggestion :



Fitted with a dolly :





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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 07:05 PM UTC
I agree, I like the looks of your two axle trailer with the "break back" fold down ramp but I kinda have my heart set on the smaller single axle trailer shown in the photo below. I don't have any construction reference on either trailer but I feel I can "engineer" a fairly close "what if" scratch version of this one!

(Also it gives me a nice way to display my Mirror Models bulldozer when it is finished!)

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 07:12 PM UTC
Someone, but I don't know who, makes a nice resin kit of the trailer I am interested in. I hope to come across this one someday.



Also Custom Factory makes a similarly styled Russian trailer but of course I won't be using that one with my US White Tractor.
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 07:50 PM UTC
Is there any reference books for the White 666 series of trucks or perhaps any “walk around” photos of the details….. I like the detailing your are doing to your subject…. reason I asked is because I too would like to detail when I build mine…with brake lines, wiring etc…… your build is looking good….
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 08:12 PM UTC
I am just basing my brake lines on common industry practice but even then I am sure I have some details wrong.

The only reference I know of is the original Army TM Tech Manual.

I imagine the TM for the White truck would be available on disk from Easy 1 Productions.
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 08:37 PM UTC
There's a TM dealing with the 6-ton trucks series you can read online here (if needed, you can also make screen captures as well ) :

http://fr.scribd.com/doc/166770621/TM-9-813-WHITE-CORBITT-AND-BROCKWAY-6-TON-TRUCK-1944

Mike (sorry for calling you Mick before...) I guess the trailer you're looking for could be one of these :

http://fr.scribd.com/doc/190209989/Tm-5-9218-SEMI-TRLR-LOW-BED-20T-DOLLY-20TD-SEPT-1944

http://fr.scribd.com/doc/188627588/Tm-5-9200-XBBM-TRAILER-LOW-BED-16-TON-OCT-1943

http://fr.scribd.com/doc/173046185/Tm-9-897-22-Ton-Low-bed-Trailer-La-Crosse-Df6-22

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:21 PM UTC
Well, I guess one could check this out:

http://www.ampersandpubco.com/new-products-1/six-ton-trucks-a-visual-history-of-the-armys-most-versatile-heavy-truck-1941-1950-1

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:40 PM UTC
Sorry to say Pat but I didn't know about that offering from your company. Looks good. Looks like a must have for me.
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:48 PM UTC

Hi, the trailer you are looking at is by a French company called P.S.P. I think they are out of business but scalelink here in the UK may have some.

Regards Jason
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:50 PM UTC
Thanks Jason, I am familiar with ScaleLink. I will check it out. Hope they have it still in stock!
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:51 PM UTC
Mark, thanks to Frenchy we now have a connection to the TM on the White truck.

Here is the air brake diagram from that TM:

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 09:57 PM UTC
Frenchy - It looks to me like it is the 20 ton trailer I am after!








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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 10:04 PM UTC


You're welcome, liking this build.

Regards Jason
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 10:29 PM UTC
20ton Trailer by P.S.P. has now been ordered from Scale Link! I have always had good service and good luck with these guys!

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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 11:29 PM UTC
AWESOME!!!!! Keep us up to date on that build….You got me motivated..once I get my CCKW-353 done, I may start on a White 666…I was going to do a Studebaker US6….but that White truck is just tooooo cool !!!!
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2015 - 11:41 PM UTC
That isn’t the same type trailer found in the Merit Diamond T kits is it?
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Posted: Saturday, June 20, 2015 - 12:05 AM UTC

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That isn’t the same type trailer found in the Merit Diamond T kits is it?



No it isn't. The one included in these kits is the Rogers M9 45-ton trailer :



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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2015 - 06:50 PM UTC
Head and taillight lenses arrived today from SKP Models.



This is a GREAT product that really adds depth and visual interest to a model!

One criticism though: This is the set for the CCKW. Two of these reflectors should be amber and not red. Makes me wonder why the two item #7's are set apart on the fret?

The two reflectors on the CCKW Deuce cargo truck that face forward on the front corners of the load box should be amber!

p.s. - I may need to order another set of reflectors now that I have the 20 ton trailer coming from ScaleLink in the UK!