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Pascal's Patriot system (Trumpeter 1/35)
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warlock109
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Utah, United States
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Posted: Sunday, January 15, 2017 - 06:29 AM UTC
Pascal, you might want to check out the TM for the Detroit Diesel engine. this was used prior to the new EPA rules that the DOD had to adopt.There are a lot of good drawings in it. TM 9-2815-224-34&P the entire rear of the engine is wrong. and there should be a Blower on top under the Turbo instead of a box.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 01:26 PM UTC
My engine has arrived in the mail!

You can find my installation progress at:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=250147&ord=&page=7
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 09:28 AM UTC
Beautiful build sir. Also thank you for the close up photos of the "Real Model" engine kit. I am waiting impatiently for mine to arrive.

Cheers

Mike
youngtiger1
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Posted: Friday, July 29, 2016 - 03:06 PM UTC
Pascal, any updates on this build buddy? The trailer came out real nice. Cannot wait to see your work on the tractor.
thewizardofaz
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 10:01 AM UTC
Very nice. I see you're aware of the missile cannister color variations. Most likely, in the real world it's the result of varying depot warehousing.
henkp
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 09:33 AM UTC
woow loooks great well done
henk
pascalbausset
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Moselle, France
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 08:25 AM UTC
Patriot launcher is finished.


thewizardofaz
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 06:56 AM UTC
I've just recently picked up this kit and the AFV Club kit as well. What's got me head scratching is that there is no command vehicle nor antenna vehicle at all. The Trumpy has a radar, which is good for a whole unit. But if creating a diorama of an entire unit, well, you could not do it unless you scratch build two complete vehicles. The command vehicle could ride in the back of one of the many HEMTT vehicles, but you'd have to build it. The antenna vehicle would want to be on a low boy, like the launcher, and no one has a separate launcher...or do they? More walkarounds would be excellent.

NIMIX made a complete set several years ago and that included the missing vehicles I mentioned above. Just can't find the kits anywhere. ARII made the complete group of 4 kits in 1/48. I have a couple complete sets of these and I might possibly be able to scale them up and scratch build.
youngtiger1
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2016 - 10:09 AM UTC
Glad I saw this thread as I am seriously thinking about getting this kit soon. Looks like a lot of nice detail on this kit. So, it will be nice follow along and learn from your work.
supersport
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2016 - 01:46 PM UTC
I am having a good time building mine. I will build the radar trailer later. The Real models engine has well needed detail, but for some reason a couple of parts in the parts list did not show placement in the instructions. I made my outriggers workable and am pleased how it came out, even though I broke the tops of the screws on all of them. I replaced the ends with metal and now there is no more breakage. Slight clearencing here and there made it all work smoothly. The DEF set is a stunner, and I am sure for all that have the kit you will be in for a nice surprise, when you see the set. Pictures of the wip will be up in a bit.
pascalbausset
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Moselle, France
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 02:53 PM UTC
Just received the Real Model HEMTT engine,

Really nice & useful upgrade for the Trumpy kit, wich is poor in detail and accuracy for this part of the truck !

pascalbausset
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Moselle, France
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Posted: Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 03:51 PM UTC
Here a resized picture from the HH WA on Prime portal :

HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 12:04 PM UTC

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When trailer sit on his outriggers, wheels don't touch the ground !



That`s correct!
http://data3.primeportal.net/artillery/hans-hermann_buhling/us_patriot/images/us_patriot_015_of_140.jpg
MAD_DUCK
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Posted: Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 08:24 AM UTC
I think what Nige means, is does the kit show the weight taken of the axles when the trailer is on the outriggers. And no, it doesn't. But judging for photos, the real one doesn't sag
pascalbausset
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Posted: Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 01:33 AM UTC
When trailer sit on his outriggers, wheels don't touch the ground !
gloucesternige
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Posted: Friday, January 01, 2016 - 08:22 PM UTC

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I've just had another thought... if Trumpeter designed the kit to be displayed on stands, surely the suspension has sag built in, so when coupled up to your tractor unit it will sit high at the back?




Well, I can answer the question now myself as I've built both trailers.. there is no sag, so the trailer will look fine on the back of the M983 and if you can be fussed, the sag will need to be built into the trailer on supports.
gloucesternige
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 09:19 PM UTC
I've just had another thought... if Trumpeter designed the kit to be displayed on stands, surely the suspension has sag built in, so when coupled up to your tractor unit it will sit high at the back?

gloucesternige
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 07:17 PM UTC
What a great Idea Pascal!! I was going to use M2 threaded rod, which wouldn't have looked half as good as your idea of wrapping wire around rod!! thanks for sharing.

I have just finished assembling all eight legs, and am going insane. I don't know about your feelings, but I think this kit is petty poor in quality when you consider the amount of clean up required.. maybe it gets better now the legs are out of the way?

BTW, do you model 24/7? I've never seen anyone work so fast.
pascalbausset
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 02:37 PM UTC
I have modified the Radar trailer to do it with raised outriggers :




Paintin from the launcher continue...it's a long and hard way

gloucesternige
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 02:35 PM UTC


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All I had to do was replace the kits screw jacks with telescoping brass tubing and I drilled out all the hinged joints and reinforced them with wire. But the downside of doing this is that if you posed them in the down position,they won't hold the model up.[/quote]

Thanks Vince. Now that I have the kit I can see exactly what you mean. I wasn't planning on having them moving, but more like having them posed in the transportable position. It's a shame that trumpeter didn't include longer screws as an option for this in the box??

Anyway, back to Pauls build.. how's it coming along Paul??
MAD_DUCK
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 10:25 PM UTC

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Are there any good photos online of the wiring you added? I'm working on mine now, and I built mine so that the outriggers can posed in a launcher or transport mode.


I am strongly considering this one, but have noticed a potential error? The outriggers look like they can only be built extended OOB, yet the screws that wind them down appear to be molded in the raised position, ie not a lot of screw exposed.

Can someone please clarify this for me. I#d also be interested to know how you made them raised please Vince?


All I had to do was replace the kits screw jacks with telescoping brass tubing and I drilled out all the hinged joints and reinforced them with wire. But the downside of doing this is that if you posed them in the down position,they won't hold the model up.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 07:39 PM UTC

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Where did the 870 trailer come from? I would like to find one if its reasonably priced!



I guess it's the Miniman Factory kit :

http://www.minimanfactory.com/en/m870a1-40-ton-lowbed-trailer-i8/

H.P.
fhvn4d
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 07:03 PM UTC

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The M983 A2 assembled before detailling


The truck with M870 flat bed trailer



Where did the 870 trailer come from? I would like to find one if its reasonably priced!