login   |    register
Armor/AFV: Large Scale
1/16 and Larger Armor Modeling
Hosted by Darren Baker
Up Detailing the 1/16th. Hobby Boss Tiger I
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 09:27 PM UTC
Here I have the Mantlet temporarily installed.
This needs a 5mm strip on both the top and bottom as shown.



I fixed the gun in the neutral position.
It isn't hinged where it should be at the front and there's a large gap.

These will have to be removed to fit the Zimmerit on the turret.

Like so.

That's all for today.
Donald
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Friday, August 05, 2016 - 09:22 PM UTC
I found when applying the Zimmerit, that the weld beads around the Gun trunions should be removed also.


The Zimmerit for the left side of the turret was about 1mm. too long, you should check the fit before gluing it down.

I added a strip , 0.5mm thick to the gun barrel to help center it in the mantlet .

OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Friday, August 05, 2016 - 09:30 PM UTC
I moved and replaced the retaining bolt for the muzzle brake.


The gun is now centered .



Well the basic assembly except for the wheels is finished, next the wheels and all the small parts.
Donald
GazzaS
#424
Visit this Community
Queensland, Australia
Joined: April 23, 2015
KitMaker: 4,126 posts
Armorama: 1,980 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 06, 2016 - 02:09 AM UTC
Fantastic stuff!

Gaz
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:16 PM UTC
Here is how I assembled the wheels, this wasn't easy and there are probably other ways to to it.

I started with the double outside wheel assemblies .
You need to trim the inside areas shown to get them to go together.


Insert the axle pin and join the wheels together.

Fasten them together with the small screws and install a long bushing on the axle pin.

Install and glue in place the single inner wheel.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:24 PM UTC
You need eight of these .


Here are the parts for the single outer wheel assemblies .


Join together the inner double wheels with the small screws.

Insert the axle pin into the extension and install on the outer wheel ( fit is really tight)
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:33 PM UTC
Install a long bushing on the axle pin and insert the assembly into the double wheel assembly.


You need eight of these.
The small notches on the shaft of the outer wheel don't do anything.


The finished Wheels.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:44 PM UTC
Now I'll install the Wheels and Sprockets.
This didn't work out like I hoped and I had to do some extra work.
First off the axle pins will not fit into the holes in the swing arms, you could probably drill them to fit but you might end up with a very loose fit.
I chose to use a C clamp to press them onto the arms, but to do this I had to remove the arms from the lower hull and re install them one at a time after fitting the wheels to them.


The one above still needs to be pressed on.

I started at the Idled on the right side and worked toward the sprocket.
The one just before the Sprocket was the hardest.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 - 08:52 PM UTC
For the Left side I started with the Sprocket and worked toward the Idler.


You have to install the Sprockets while installing the wheels as they all fit together. The Idlers fit easily, no problem there.

I used a piece of tubing and a polly cap from spare parts to hold the Sprockets on.


Here shows the running gear all installed.


Next I'll be working on the Track, I'm hoping that there are extra as the spares that this kit has for the turret are all mounted upside down.
Donald
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Thursday, August 11, 2016 - 11:00 PM UTC
I have the track links all cleaned up.
Some had a lot of flash on the areas where they join together.


Each link has four push pin marks that need filling.


It might be a while before I have anything more to post, there's a lot of filling and sanding to do.
Donald
tatbaqui
Staff MemberNews Writer
ARMORAMA
#040
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: May 06, 2007
KitMaker: 2,664 posts
Armorama: 2,402 posts
Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 04:34 AM UTC
That's one heck of track filling work you have there. Nice progress overall.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 13, 2016 - 11:39 PM UTC
Ready for sanding and painting.


Now back to work.
Donald
GazzaS
#424
Visit this Community
Queensland, Australia
Joined: April 23, 2015
KitMaker: 4,126 posts
Armorama: 1,980 posts
Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2016 - 02:22 AM UTC
Wow! What a daunting task. Over-repetition kills my mojo.

Gaz
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - 05:05 PM UTC
The Tracks are Painted, assembled, and installed.

I pre. painted the Track.


I used a little bright steel on the contact areas .

OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - 05:09 PM UTC
Installed


When viewed at a certain angle the screws on the front set of wheels are visible , a little paint needed there.


I think that the Track sag looks about right, it will have to do as there's no way to adjust it easily.


That's all for now.
Donald
Byrden
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
KitMaker: 2,157 posts
Armorama: 2,145 posts
Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 - 08:55 PM UTC
Track tension on a real Tiger was adjusted by moving the idler. Is this not possible in the model?

David
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:37 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Track tension on a real Tiger was adjusted by moving the idler. Is this not possible in the model?

David



If you remove the built in stops where it mounts to the hull you should be able to get a full range of adjustment.
Donald
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:38 PM UTC
Now I filled the mounting holes in the hull top.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:42 PM UTC
Now, this is how I did the spare track mounts for the sides of the turret.
I'm afraid I got this a little out of sequence .
After removing the upper mounting parts from the kit spare track I did as follows.


This is what the kit Turret spare track looks like.

I cut each one here.

And here
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:49 PM UTC
You will need to drill each of the bottom mounts for a pin that fits into the new spare track.

Like this below.


OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 - 09:54 PM UTC
There's a big difference between the new and the kit spares.


Here is how they look test fitted, the final install will be after the painting.


I think I'll finish up the turret then go back to the hull.
Donald
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 05:22 PM UTC
I have the Turret finished, I don't think that I've forgotten anything that goes on it.
You should remove the weld mark that runs across the top.

The Pe Hasps and locks were really a pain in the back side to do.



I scratch built a lifting point on the rear of the turret, none is supplied with the kit.
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 05:29 PM UTC
I removed the close in weapon defence port from an old 1/16th. king tiger turret.


The lone upper track holder is slightly bent down as I don't have a track link for this position.

I hope I got everything in the reght position, well if not it's where it will be staying.

Now to the upper Hull.
Donald
Byrden
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
KitMaker: 2,157 posts
Armorama: 2,145 posts
Posted: Friday, August 19, 2016 - 09:52 PM UTC
Why add the close-defence weapon? These "mid" Tigers didn't have one.

David
OldWarloke
Visit this Community
United States
Joined: October 14, 2012
KitMaker: 2,031 posts
Armorama: 2,017 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 07:20 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Why add the close-defence weapon? These "mid" Tigers didn't have one.

David



Hi David, I was just going by the pics. in the Squadron book see pic below.
The turret in the kit mostly resembles the Interum turret, as there's no pistol port on the left side. I wonder how many they made this way?