_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV
For discussions on tanks, artillery, jeeps, etc.
FRAGEZEICHEN BergePATTON 48, quote, unquote
KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2016 - 11:09 PM UTC
With some hub-bub over the "BergePanzer Tiger" with a couple new kits and the descriptive title of these kits, I decided to bash out my own version while away from the bench visiting my nephew for a week.

Three of the four kits that I know of in 1/35 plastic:







The kit I used is the old 1981 Tamiya M48A3:



Everything is from the box except the flint striker from a disposable lighter.





Fenderless tank is something I always wanted to do.









The winch frame made from the fenders.













Pulley wheels made from 2 upper return rollers then added parts from the turret bustle rack parts and tow cable ring.





^ yup, old Tamiya tank kit.





Next is primer to determine how much of a Glue Bomb this really is.



Thanks for looking . . .




revdean
Visit this Community
Ohio, United States
Joined: May 19, 2015
KitMaker: 5 posts
Armorama: 5 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 03, 2016 - 11:35 PM UTC
I like this. Good job.
TankCarl
Visit this Community
Rhode Island, United States
Joined: May 10, 2002
KitMaker: 3,581 posts
Armorama: 2,782 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2016 - 12:41 AM UTC
And now, sadly,Dragon may decide to make this.
As a Black Box special edition.
KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 04, 2016 - 03:02 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I like this. Good job.


Thank you for looking in and your compliment.


Quoted Text

And now, sadly,Dragon may decide to make this.
As a Black Box special edition.


uh-oh, maybe.




KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 07:25 AM UTC
Before I left my nephew's house, I sprayed a primer base of Rust-Oleum Camouflage Earth Brown. I'm hooked on this series of aerosol spray paint BTW.

Finally seeing this under the home bench lighting reveals spots that need attention with putty and sanding.











Bravo1102
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 2,864 posts
Armorama: 2,497 posts
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 09:03 AM UTC
You look at the Hunnicutt Patton book and see the prototypes of various engineer vehicles and you're not that far off.

', I meant "a" frame as in an "A" shaped frame not just "a frame" '
joepanzer
Visit this Community
North Carolina, United States
Joined: January 21, 2004
KitMaker: 803 posts
Armorama: 740 posts
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 09:33 AM UTC
Two questions, probably stupid:

Should the pivot on roof of the turret be reinforced? would seem that roof would buckle/twist under stress?

And you're not seriously going to leave the hand cranks on it? Imagine a TC telling two guys to get out and crank that b*tch under fire? You'd have to take mein .45!!


But I Love "what ifs" and this is a good 'un! Keep dreamin man!
jasegreene
Visit this Community
Florida, United States
Joined: October 21, 2013
KitMaker: 751 posts
Armorama: 751 posts
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 11:44 AM UTC
All I got to say is this,it looks a lot better than that mess that CMK brought out years ago.That whole Bergepanzer Tiger I was nothing but trouble.
KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2016 - 11:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text

You look at the Hunnicutt Patton book and see the prototypes of various engineer vehicles and you're not that far off.

', I meant "a" frame as in an "A" shaped frame not just "a frame" '



LOL Thanks. It's just a fun holiday, away from the home bench, build.



Quoted Text

Two questions, probably stupid:

Should the pivot on roof of the turret be reinforced? would seem that roof would buckle/twist under stress?

And you're not seriously going to leave the hand cranks on it? Imagine a TC telling two guys to get out and crank that b*tch under fire? You'd have to take mein .45!!


But I Love "what ifs" and this is a good 'un! Keep dreamin man!



Whatever was hooked must have been light enough for the mounts

Yeah, I know right? It must have been operated (winch cranked) away from live fire.... I guess.


Quoted Text

All I got to say is this,it looks a lot better than that mess that CMK brought out years ago.That whole Bergepanzer Tiger I was nothing but trouble.



I have that kit and have not started it. I see them on the vendor tables at shows for like $5USD.




KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 - 07:42 AM UTC
I'm trying some craft acrylics that I've never used before. I like them so far. Currently mixing the "rubber tire" color.











KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 - 07:43 AM UTC
The cable position and tension is set and working on base color (on turret) for this rig.




I think I might move the rear stowage box onto racks and hang them over the rear deck a little more





KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 06:10 AM UTC
I decided to relocate the rear stowage box. It's mounted to a couple parts from the kit's rear bustle rack and a couple fender support parts. Styrene sheet covers the bottom.

The overall green color is just the base coat before detailing and weathering.













The kit vinyl tracks were base coated flat brown. Then after that dried, masked off and sprayed hot-rod primer. The masking tape is old so it left some adhesive residue behind. I'll clean that off tonight.






brekinapez
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 07:07 AM UTC
The work is amazing, but I am curious:

Is the crane cable just riding up over the lip of the frame holding the reel and crank on the turret rear? Wouldn't that tend to wear at the cable and lead to premature failure? Should there (or maybe there is and I just can't tell from the pics) be a small notch there to allow the cable to pass over the lip of the metal without touching?
Bravo1102
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 2,864 posts
Armorama: 2,497 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 07:17 AM UTC
I love this contraption.

It has its own kind of logic and we shouldn't apply real world logic to it.
KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 07:28 AM UTC

Quoted Text

The work is amazing, but I am curious:

Is the crane cable just riding up over the lip of the frame holding the reel and crank on the turret rear? Wouldn't that tend to wear at the cable and lead to premature failure? Should there (or maybe there is and I just can't tell from the pics) be a small notch there to allow the cable to pass over the lip of the metal without touching?


Hi Brekinapez, It's actually a sealed case bearing, roller, that it is guiding over to the drum.
Thanks for the compliment and comment.


Quoted Text

I love this contraption.

It has its own kind of logic and we shouldn't apply real world logic to it.


Hi Bravo1102, yes, Theodor S. Geisel design plant works certainly have an influence on this project.




AussieReg
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
#007
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 09, 2009
KitMaker: 8,156 posts
Armorama: 194 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 07:34 AM UTC
Neat work KSO, loving the look of this mad unit!

Cheers, D
KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 08:27 AM UTC
Haha, Thanks, D




KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 19, 2017 - 06:46 AM UTC
I was almost done with this project but then I saw a dumpster truck at work. Those COE units that drop off and then haul away the big steel, open top, containers that you dump construction waste materials into. It had that red and white safety alert tape around it. So, I got this big idea...





I'll peel the masking materials off tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks for looking.




KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 06:51 AM UTC
It turned out the way I wanted. A sort of candy cane Christmas theme look since It was built and on my mind through the holiday season.

The rear storage box broke off during masking so it made it easier to paint it anyway.






Thanks for looking ....




KoSprueOne
Visit this Community
Myanmar
Joined: March 05, 2004
KitMaker: 4,011 posts
Armorama: 1,498 posts
Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2017 - 01:01 AM UTC
The Fragezeichen-Patton-48 is vollständig (done).

Thanks for all the comments and questions



















Build photo album:
http://imgur.com/a/uazR6




 _GOTOTOP