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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 11:54 PM UTC
This is a diorama I have been working on for some time now. It has taken a while and the major factor of that is the figures. As I am not a figure painting individual, I wanted to take as much time as possible with this diorama as to not compromise the entirety of it, due to bad figure painting. I have a little detail to add but it is complete now as-is. It's only the name, I am not too certain about. I wanted 'Rebellion' but I saw it was already taken by another fantastic diorama by a fellow modeller. So, if you all have a better name than what I already have; with impact to the diorama, I would be very grateful.

The diorama is based during the Libyan conflict. The opposition is holding ground in a nearby compound where they are at a stand-off with government troops, loyal to Khadaffi. They get extra reinforcement from two fellow komparerades who are running towards the on-going fire-fight.hope you all like this build as well as my figure painting.

The diorama is based during the Libyan conflict. The opposition is holding ground in a nearby compound where they are at a stand-off with government troops, loyal to Khadaffi. They get extra reinforcement from two fellow komparerades who are running towards the on-going fire-fight. I hope you all like this build as well as my figure painting skills. I think I have improved just a little since my last figure painting job.









































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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 12:07 AM UTC
Charles - looks great and some real dynamic poses there. Some suggestions if I may, not criticism by any stretch: The back of the pickup where the guy is firing the 12.7mm DShKa would be strewn with empty cases, this will also give the impression of a long on-going fire fight. The pickup that is abandoned looks weird with the back blanked off. Would suggest doing it with the back sheared off, maybe in an explosion which would remove the need for the blanking plate. The diorama base needs to be better 'blended' onto the wooden frame base - a bit of wall filler painted black would do it! As I've said, just suggestions.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 12:10 AM UTC

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Charles - looks great and some real dynamic poses there. Some suggestions if I may, not criticism by any stretch: The back of the pickup where the guy is firing the 12.7mm DShKa would be strewn with empty cases, this will also give the impression of a long on-going fire fight. The pickup that is abandoned looks weird with the back blanked off. Would suggest doing it with the back sheared off, maybe in an explosion which would remove the need for the blanking plate. The diorama base needs to be better 'blended' onto the wooden frame base - a bit of wall filler painted black would do it! As I've said, just suggestions.



All suggestions taken into account. Thank you.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 01:18 AM UTC
Very nice work overall.
Have to agree with Ian on the abandoned truck.The plate on the back looks odd.Why not just leave it open?

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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 02:04 AM UTC

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Very nice work overall.
Have to agree with Ian on the abandoned truck.The plate on the back looks odd.Why not just leave it open?

Tom



Thank you Tom. Will consider it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 05:41 PM UTC
Tough crowd Charles! I agree with prior comments but I’d also just like to say you’ve got so many fantastic details in there & my initial reaction was unprintable in a good way. And what a difference daylight can make - very nicely done

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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 06:07 PM UTC

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Charles - looks great and some real dynamic poses there. Some suggestions if I may, not criticism by any stretch: The back of the pickup where the guy is firing the 12.7mm DShKa would be strewn with empty cases, this will also give the impression of a long on-going fire fight. The pickup that is abandoned looks weird with the back blanked off. Would suggest doing it with the back sheared off, maybe in an explosion which would remove the need for the blanking plate. The diorama base needs to be better 'blended' onto the wooden frame base - a bit of wall filler painted black would do it! As I've said, just suggestions.



From a constructive viewpoint...

I would at least triple the spent AK47 (other weapons) empty brass casings on the ground as well...if your budget allows. Except for the DShKa, everyone seems to have 30 round magazines. That gives an impression of an even bigger firefight than what you show with the numbers of people represented. What my 'mind's eye' see is that these guys have been at this fight for what seems maybe 30 minutes or so. And since I mentioned the subject of magazines, litter the area with a couple/few of those too!

If you can, or are willing, I would also find a product (Testers Dull Coat perhaps) that softens/dulls the "brightness" of some of the clothing your "Freedom Fighters" are wearing...then apply a bit of shadowing in the creases.

Hope this helps...damn fine work so far! More than I would ever attempt. I guess I'm suggesting you make your scene look 'busier', but in a good way!
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 09:07 PM UTC
great detail nice job !
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 10:07 PM UTC

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Charles - looks great and some real dynamic poses there. Some suggestions if I may, not criticism by any stretch: The back of the pickup where the guy is firing the 12.7mm DShKa would be strewn with empty cases, this will also give the impression of a long on-going fire fight. The pickup that is abandoned looks weird with the back blanked off. Would suggest doing it with the back sheared off, maybe in an explosion which would remove the need for the blanking plate. The diorama base needs to be better 'blended' onto the wooden frame base - a bit of wall filler painted black would do it! As I've said, just suggestions.



From a constructive viewpoint...

I would at least triple the spent AK47 (other weapons) empty brass casings on the ground as well...if your budget allows. Except for the DShKa, everyone seems to have 30 round magazines. That gives an impression of an even bigger firefight than what you show with the numbers of people represented. What my 'mind's eye' see is that these guys have been at this fight for what seems maybe 30 minutes or so. And since I mentioned the subject of magazines, litter the area with a couple/few of those too!

If you can, or are willing, I would also find a product (Testers Dull Coat perhaps) that softens/dulls the "brightness" of some of the clothing your "Freedom Fighters" are wearing...then apply a bit of shadowing in the creases.

Hope this helps...damn fine work so far! More than I would ever attempt. I guess I'm suggesting you make your scene look 'busier', but in a good way!



Appreciate your suggestions. Thank you. Will see what I can do. Do you know where I can find AK 47 spent brass shells? I have been looking for some since I started this but no one seems to know where I can find any.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 10:10 PM UTC

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Tough crowd Charles! I agree with prior comments but I’d also just like to say you’ve got so many fantastic details in there & my initial reaction was unprintable in a good way. And what a difference daylight can make - very nicely done




Tough, but fair. Thanks. I will definitely see what I can do. I just need to know where I can find spent AK 47 shells.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 10:10 PM UTC
Thanks Lou.
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 11:01 PM UTC

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Charles - looks great and some real dynamic poses there. Some suggestions if I may, not criticism by any stretch: The back of the pickup where the guy is firing the 12.7mm DShKa would be strewn with empty cases, this will also give the impression of a long on-going fire fight. The pickup that is abandoned looks weird with the back blanked off. Would suggest doing it with the back sheared off, maybe in an explosion which would remove the need for the blanking plate. The diorama base needs to be better 'blended' onto the wooden frame base - a bit of wall filler painted black would do it! As I've said, just suggestions.



From a constructive viewpoint...

I would at least triple the spent AK47 (other weapons) empty brass casings on the ground as well...if your budget allows. Except for the DShKa, everyone seems to have 30 round magazines. That gives an impression of an even bigger firefight than what you show with the numbers of people represented. What my 'mind's eye' see is that these guys have been at this fight for what seems maybe 30 minutes or so. And since I mentioned the subject of magazines, litter the area with a couple/few of those too!

If you can, or are willing, I would also find a product (Testers Dull Coat perhaps) that softens/dulls the "brightness" of some of the clothing your "Freedom Fighters" are wearing...then apply a bit of shadowing in the creases.

Hope this helps...damn fine work so far! More than I would ever attempt. I guess I'm suggesting you make your scene look 'busier', but in a good way!



Appreciate your suggestions. Thank you. Will see what I can do. Do you know where I can find AK 47 spent brass shells? I have been looking for some since I started this but no one seems to know where I can find any.



I have used my PE brass parts bin that replicates small arms casings, even if the scale is not 100% exact, and have pass judging muster. Not sure if 1/35 AK47 spent rounds exist...having never the need for them. AK rounds can be multiple calibers, but the most common is the 7.62 x 39mm. I think the DShKa uses the 12.7 x 108mm. Give Griffon Models, RB Model, PanzerArt, and Live Resin, to name a few, a try...if u prefer to be accurate. If available for purchase, you could also try doctoring up (pun intended) syringes of the .020 to .030 sizes, depending on the caliber you wish to portray. Cut them to length, ream out both ends, leaving one end open and using thick textured super glue to seal the other end. Painting them a brass color will have to be done. There are other ways to reproduce small arms casings...all I did is give you how I've done it for myself...might work for you!
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Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 11:39 PM UTC
Appreciate your great suggestion. I am going to experiment with other materials. As long as it looks the part.
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Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 - 10:27 AM UTC
Hi Charles,

Coincidentally I’ve just been knocking out some spents – 0.2”/0.5mm Evergreen tube cut to 2.5mm roughly representing the Maxim’s output. There’s around 100 there which took an hour or so including painting, works for me...






barra733
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Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 - 02:27 PM UTC
I've used 0.4mm brass tube. No need to paint!
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Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:45 PM UTC

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Hi Charles,

Coincidentally I’ve just been knocking out some spents – 0.2”/0.5mm Evergreen tube cut to 2.5mm roughly representing the Maxim’s output. There’s around 100 there which took an hour or so including painting, works for me...


Thank you Tim. Great tip. I will give it a try.






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Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 - 11:47 PM UTC

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I've used 0.4mm brass tube. No need to paint!



Another great tip Ian. Btw, should it not be smaller for an AK47? I'm sure you meant .004mm?
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Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 01:08 AM UTC
7.62/35 = 0.2mm
5.56/35 = 0.16mm

In reality these are too small to see so I use 0.4mm
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Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 04:37 AM UTC

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7.62/35 = 0.2mm
5.56/35 = 0.16mm

In reality these are too small to see so I use 0.4mm



Ok. Understood.
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Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 11:41 AM UTC
good sense of movement in the diorama with no 'empty zones' (well maybe clutter up a little more behind the wall where the tyre and the plastic chair are, maybe a couple of Arabic newspapers or something)
Agree with the comments about magazines and shells, i always use plastic rod painted brass and chopped to length
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Posted: Saturday, August 12, 2017 - 11:59 AM UTC

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good sense of movement in the diorama with no 'empty zones' (well maybe clutter up a little more behind the wall where the tyre and the plastic chair are, maybe a couple of Arabic newspapers or something)
Agree with the comments about magazines and shells, i always use plastic rod painted brass and chopped to length



Thank you for your suggestions.
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Posted: Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 04:36 AM UTC
hey really outstanding work I see youve used evolution miniatures for some of the figures could you tell me where you got the guy wearing the red tshirt from would fit in well with a dio wip for me
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Posted: Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 08:19 PM UTC

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hey really outstanding work I see youve used evolution miniatures for some of the figures could you tell me where you got the guy wearing the red tshirt from would fit in well with a dio wip for me



Thank you. The figure is from a Vietnam caompany called 'Paracel Miniatures': http://www.paracelminiatures.com/ They have many awesome figures, and new ones on the rise. I am already planning on purchasing more from them.
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