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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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IDF Light/Heavy Metal
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 - 01:36 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2018 - 06:01 AM UTC
What's going on with the tank in pic 1442? Haven't seen those roof-top sensors before....
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 02:11 AM UTC
Thanks for these great pictures!! They truly are invaluable to modellers!!

I am building a Dragon M60 w/ERA and have corrected the hull and ordered the Orange Hobby M68 gun.

I want to fit Merkava 1 tracks so I guess I'm building a Magach 6M? Please excuse my lack of knowledge but this IDF stuff is all new to me. I'm currently reading up on the Tiran story and boy oh boy that is a long one!!

What else should I do to get a fairly accurate representation of a 6M, if that is what this model will become? I particularly like pics 243 and 244.
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 03:28 AM UTC
I hope this helps:

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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 04:31 AM UTC

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I hope this helps:




WOW!! Thank you so much!!
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 03:35 PM UTC
Nikos, is the FCS the ONLY difference between the Magach 6B 'Gal'and the 6M ('Gal' vs. 'Nachal Oz', respectively)?
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 03:52 PM UTC
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GTDeath13
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 03:53 PM UTC
First of al, I am no expert, I made this table by looking at photos and exhanging info online and using reference published in various books.

Something I noticed just right now:

The 6R has the original turret basket and not the larger IDF variant. I will correct it and repost the table.


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Nikos, is the FCS the ONLY difference between the Magach 6B 'Gal'and the 6M ('Gal' vs. 'Nachal Oz', respectively)?

The 6M is based on the M60 slick whilst the 6B Gal on the M60A1. But the configuration is almost identical except the FCS, as you correctly stated.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 03:04 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, March 25, 2018 - 04:50 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 01:53 PM UTC
The device seen in the turret-basket in picture #1463 is a vehicle-board water generator: http://water-gen.com/products/defense-applications/vehicle-atmospheric-water-generation-unit/

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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 02:02 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 02:27 PM UTC
Is the vehicle in #1463 somekind of testbed or an operational vehicle?

It has the older style Merkava 3 tracks and it is the first and only photo of a Merkava 3 Dalet I have seen with these tracks.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 02:33 PM UTC

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Is the vehicle in #1463 somekind of testbed or an operational vehicle?



Judging by the serial number, it's an early-production example; probably only used for demonstration purposes these days.
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Posted: Monday, April 02, 2018 - 01:00 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2018 - 04:55 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2018 - 06:59 PM UTC
Another set of very interesting photos...
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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 - 07:26 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2018 - 03:23 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 01:18 PM UTC
Merkava 3 based heavy ARVs

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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2018 - 02:01 PM UTC
Let's continue with the Mk.4, first the 'regular' (non-Trophy, non-Droid) variant:

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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 01:37 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 04:18 PM UTC
Israel correct me if I am wrong:

Early production vehicles did not have a loader's hatch and are usually seen without the .50 cal on the mantlet.

Later production vehicles had a loader's hatch and were equiped with a .50 cal.

Sometime along the earlier variants got retrofitted with the loader's hatch, is that correct?
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 04:32 PM UTC

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Israel correct me if I am wrong:

Early production vehicles did not have a loader's hatch and are usually seen without the .50 cal on the mantlet.

Later production vehicles had a loader's hatch and were equiped with a .50 cal.

Sometime along the earlier variants got retrofitted with the loader's hatch, is that correct?



All correct

Initially, the Mk.4 was designed without loader's hatch to maximize armor integrity, however later studies proved that the advantage of the stronger armor was largely offset by the reduced chance of the loader to escape the vehicle. Some of these early variants were later retro-fitted with loader's hatch.
Generally, the omission of the 0.50 cal on the early variants was due to the fact that it's (mainly) operated by the loader; it was introduced later as part of the LIC upgrade package, however, there were (are?) early variants also without loader's hatch but with 0.50 cal mounted above the gun.
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Posted: Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 04:42 PM UTC
Dang!!! I need one more ACADEMY LIC kit to do the earlier variant (all parts included but not mentioned in the instructions)...

Thanks Israel