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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Stug iv at Arnhem
mdland58
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Illinois, United States
Joined: December 08, 2018
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 04:25 AM UTC
Greetings. Actually, I don't think it is Tiger I track on the front, but rather the late model Ostketten tracks. If you look at the actual track on the roadwheels, it is the same late version Ostketten. So the tracks on the front are just spares for the tracks on the roadwheels. I just finished building a DML Ostwind, and used these same tracks both on the roadwheels and in the front glacis bar rack, exactly like they did in this photo. What I find particularly of intetest, however, is that the StuGIV has the late version Ostketten, but also has its sideskirts on. You can see the tracks are wider, quite easily, but they still are not directly hitting the sideskirts. In most photos where you see the late version Ostketten(or even early version Ostketten), the sideskirts are not on the vehicle. I naturally assumed this was because of interference problems. So this photo is the first photo I have seen of the tank using the late version Ostketten AND the sideskirts at the same time. And just for information sakes, the late version Ostketten I used on my Ostwind were made by Riich. They had good detail but we're not a good set to assemble, many flaws in their assembly design. There is no real decent way for them to be workable or even assemble well. However, I hear that Voyager is now also coming out with a set of late version Ostketten, as well as early version, and also 40cm PZIII/IV, So it would be great to get some user feedback on those. If the Voyager Ostketten are as good as they appear in photos, I would NOT recommend that you get the Riich tracks. They are truly a pain. Kinda like a beautiful woman-good to look at, but a pain to work with.
In closing, whoever posted the photo of the StuGIV with the late version Ostketten, thanks, you made my day, and opened up several new modelling possibilities.
Regards,
Mark Pinson,
mpinson58@yahoo.com
Floridabucco
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 05:28 AM UTC
Wow...never saw them from that angle before....they are really wide.
marcb
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC
I've used the ones from Friulmodel (ATL-83). They're easy to assemble.
petbat
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 07:15 AM UTC

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Greetings. Actually, I don't think it is Tiger I track on the front, but rather the late model Ostketten tracks. If you look at the actual track on the roadwheels, it is the same late version Ostketten.



The tracks on the vehicle are the shorter Winterketten tracks which were basically a standard track with an extended piece on the end and in service late 1942-early 1943. These tracks could be used with standard track pieces in need.



Fuil ATL-83

The tracks on the front are Ostketten, which were a purpose built, one piece, wider track that had a longer than normal track pin and could only be used on their own.



http://relicsww2.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1049

Fruil ATL-19

marcb
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 07:33 AM UTC
A helpfull walkaround of both.

Ostketten:
http://relicsww2.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=762

Winterketten:
http://relicsww2.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=657


Ostketten


Winterketten