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Bronco PzH 2000 Replacement Tracks
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 07:46 AM UTC
Sean Langley provides an In-Box review of the PzH 2000 Tracks from Bronco Models, workable replacements for the Revell 1/35 Panzerhaubitze 2000.

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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 08:20 AM UTC
Now THAT is a thorough review.
I have been fortunate to be one of the few people I know who did not have trouble with the original tracks. In fact, I just pulled the model off the shelf and re-examined them: Still good after well over ten years. However, should they ever start self-destructing I'll definitely pick up a set of the Bronco track, based on this review. Nice job.

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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 08:54 AM UTC
Great review, enjoyed reading. Also liked the comprehensiveness of it.
I hope that this "spot light" on plastic workables will bring this to the attention of more companies (and you can see in trumpeter catalog the amount of workable tracks!) and we will see more and more items ins this line.
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Posted: Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 02:34 PM UTC
Very nice review but it would have been interesting to know a few other points like:

- How do they fit around the Revell PzH 2000 sprocket?
- How do they fit lenghtwise on the kit? perfect fit, too much tension, exessive sag...

Thanks for sharing
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 02:48 AM UTC
Great review, I finished building a set of these last week. The tracks fit the drive sprocket perfectly. I think the tracks on the real vehicle shold have no sag. Still, the revell kit is a disappointment compared to this excellent AM set.
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Posted: Monday, December 21, 2009 - 06:54 AM UTC
Hi!
I also examined mine, no destruction at all here. I picked up one of the first kits that came into the shelves, before the barrel was replaced. Maybe later kits had more that problem. But-worst quality of track detail and quality ever seen (ok, second worst, just after Hellers AMX30) , but-no self-destruction at mine.

The new set looks great. Thanks for the comprehensive review! I will use it for sure if I go for a second PzH2000 kit.

Anyway, nearly no sag at the original vehicle with this type of track as with most double pin end connector tracks. Nearly means that it is a few mm in original. Less than a single cm as far as I know. You dont see it, and if you scale down to 1/35, no sag at all.

Andreas
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Posted: Monday, December 21, 2009 - 07:34 AM UTC
I'll admit to something embarrassing - when I built my PzH 2000 about five years ago, I assumed that since it was so "Leopard 2"-ish, it used Leopard 2 tracks, and that the kit tracks were thus waaay too narrow.

So I fixed it I made the PzH 200 hull 3mm wider - not really that big a deal since I only needed to "push" the skirts further out, and was having to remove most of the hull side detail anyway, to replace it with Eduard stuff. So I added 1.5mm plastic card on each hull side, then put all of the detail back, either via the Eduard PE or by scratchbuilding. Then I completely rebuilt the sprocket - by widening it and creating new sprocket pins - so that the Leopard 2 track (HKCW individual links - the original manufacturer of the AFV Club links) fit correctly.

I was very pleased with the end result - until I discovered that the PzH 2000 *didn't* have Leopard 2 tracks, and the kit ones were the right width.

I may well end up buying the kit again one off these days and doing the whole thing over again, this time with the Bronco tracks.

There, my shame is now known to all
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Posted: Friday, December 25, 2009 - 01:27 AM UTC
S!
At LuckyModel or HobbyEasy you can find it as low as US$ 9,99 plus shiping. Much better than almost 20 pounds.
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 11:48 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Very nice review but it would have been interesting to know a few other points like:

- How do they fit around the Revell PzH 2000 sprocket?
- How do they fit lenghtwise on the kit? perfect fit, too much tension, exessive sag...

Thanks for sharing



I did think about fitting a few round the sprocket but unfortunately didn't have time before I had to clear the decks for moving house. As to sag, there should of course be none (as these are live tracks) and I'm hoping that the recommended number of links will prove to be too many, so that I can take out one or two. I've certainly found that on other sets - rather than take anyone's word for it, you just keep assembling links until you reach the right length.

Luckily, Arpad has covered both points - thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 01:16 AM UTC
I've just taken a look at Hannants' new website and it appears that the UK retail price is a lot lower than originally indicated. Instead of £19.99 they're asking £8.99. So I have no hesitation in dropping my reservations on the grounds of price!