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Verlinden North and South Range
frawlepa
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Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 06:22 PM UTC
Hi All

New boy to this awesome site. Anyone care to share their opinions or reviews of the Verlinden North and South Range of 54mm artillery and figures. Really keen to get into some Civil War modelling.

Thanks all.

Regards

Paul
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013 - 05:04 PM UTC
My advice is to be careful and never get your hopes up too high. I tried making their 54mm 9" Naval Deck Gun and it was a joke. The trunnions are so far out of place that when you try to mount the tube on the carriage it doesn't sit properly. It's rotated about 10+ degrees -- more than enough to make the sight and elevating screw way out of position. And what's worse is that it can't be corrected. After hours trying to get it right mine went into the trash.

I'm currently working on their 1/16 Dahlgrun Naval Gun and it's no better. Nothing is straight or true. All the larger, longer pieces are warped and the carriage wheels don't come close to lining up with the ring that the gun sits on. I ended up making my own base and had to make the front part of the ring a different dimensioned arch than the back.

I have a bunch of their 54mm Civil War guns and 1/200 scale ironclads that I haven't made yet. I don't understand Verlinden at all. They were pioneers in resin and they have fallen so far behind their competition. Their kits don't go together well, their 1/35 scale armor interiors fit poorly and aren't very accurate (some are mere fantasy), their instructions are close to worthless, and their resin is full of air bubbles.

And yet, as I said, I have a shelf full of their kits. Masochistic I guess.

Good luck.
jowady
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013 - 05:48 PM UTC
All my experience is from I guess around 10 years ago and I have heard folks questioning Verlinden stuff since but I have made four items from the "North and South" collection, the 100 pounder Parrott, the 15 inch Rodman (both in 1/32nd), the 12 pounder Napoleon in 54mm and a 1/200th scale Monitor. The two big Naval guns went together with no problem other than some sanding. the Napoleon had a small air bubble on the muzzle but a little putty fixed that. Also I was lucky enough to find some wheels for it (I don't think that they're made anymore. The kit calls for you to make your own, while they provide you with the rims and spokes and hub and a jig you have to glue them together yourself and I really was making a hash of it.) You also have to provide little things like the hook to carry the bucket and the brackets for the rammer and I think that I provided the chain oh and the rope, I didn't care for the Verlinden rope, but all in all I enjoyed making the kit. Maybe someday I'll run across another.

I only had one problem and one small complaint about the Monitor. The problem was that the kit bottom wasn't even. Now if you're going to make a base that's pretty easy to hide but if you aren't its a pain sanding it flat. My complaint is that its the late version of Monitor, after they reinforced the pilot house so its not correct for the Battle of Hampton Roads.

I hope this helps.

John
frawlepa
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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 11:39 AM UTC
Many thanks Guys - I was sorely tempted to purchase a few items but best I reconsider.

There are some plastic kits of Civil War figures (Masterbox do one or two) but I'm really hoping for the day when there is a comprehensive range of Civil War figures, artillery and other equipment.

Thanks again.

Regards

Paul
jowady
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Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 06:19 PM UTC

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Many thanks Guys - I was sorely tempted to purchase a few items but best I reconsider.

There are some plastic kits of Civil War figures (Masterbox do one or two) but I'm really hoping for the day when there is a comprehensive range of Civil War figures, artillery and other equipment.

Thanks again.

D

Regards

Paul



Depending on the medium and the scale there is a lot of ACW stuff out there, some of it quite reasonable some of it frighteningly expensive. For example you can see many items including figures, artillery pieces and ships here:

http://www.milminwh.com/index.htm

Deepgroove
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Posted: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 01:34 PM UTC
There's a company named Michael Roberts that offers quite a few resin Civil War figures. I've done several of the items by this company, and always found the quality very good. Fit and clean up was easy too. Many of the figures are in 100mm scale, but that's still a good size. You might look into this brand. They are available through Red Lancers, Colorado Miniatures, and probably Military Miniatures Warehouse. Best of luck.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 01:46 AM UTC
Verlinden can be a challenge. I built their 10 inch Columbiad and their large mortar. The fit was okay in these, but several large rails had significant warping which took a lot of effort to correct. As mentioned, instructions are rudimentary on their kits and non-existent on their figures.

They have oversized and poorly placed pour plugs making clean up tedious. Some of their parts are poured into an open mold so one side has no detail and will likely need a LOT of sanding to make straight and flush. Unfortunately, in many case, they are the only game in town for a given subject at any price point.

Their figures tend to be in very stiff poses and the anatomy seems too thin.

Masterbox kits are 1/35 which is a lot smaller than the standard figure size of 54mm. Usable, but youy'd have to change out all the equipment. Their trooper an scout would be more appropriate for an Indian Wars scene than ACW. The mounted figure needs surgery to remove either his sergeant's chevrons or his officers shoulder boards.

Ditto on the previously mentioned Military Miniatures Warehouse and Michael Roberts line. You might also look at the Shenandoah line, a huge assortment of figures including Zouaves and "colored troops" whose heads have African American features. Their body parts are interchangeable to a degree, allowing even more poses, teh anatomy is good, and they have a good range of spare personal accessories and fences.
jowady
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Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 03:18 PM UTC
I agree with the recommendation of the Shenandoah line, they are often considered the Rolls Royce of Civil War figures. Another Board that I belong to made me aware of this line;

http://www.allthekingsmentoysoldiers.com/ATKMACW.html

They are 54mm and designed for wargaming (which, for even the smallest Civil War Battles you must need an incredible amount of room). I will caution that I have yet to order any (although I intend to), but the price is very good and the figures look (in the photos on the website) good as well. 14 figures for 40 USD is really inexpensive.
frawlepa
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2013 - 05:46 PM UTC
Wow thanks again guys for all the polite and helpful responses.

Regards

Paul