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mawelch74
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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 03:25 AM UTC
I'm totally new to miniatures and have been researching the craft pretty heavily over the last few weeks. I've looked at painting techniques, the quibbles of scale/size, miniatures for gaming, etc, and have run across a wealth of information. However, the one thing that has been overwhelming is actually finding miniatures for a beginner. There's so much stuff out there it's mind boggling.

What I'm looking for are miniatures representative of the Roman Republican times. So far I've come across Caesar Miniatures and Warlord Games' Hail Caesar collection. There are so many companies making miniatures that I'm having a hard time finding much more.

Any suggestions, keeping in mind I've never even held a miniature, much less painted one, would be extremely helpful. Thanks so much!
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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 04:05 AM UTC
Matt,

Without knowning your choice in scale, here are some ideas:

Individual figures

Roman soldier Auxiliares miles cohortis, II c. A.C.
http://www.pegasomodels.com/productdetails_en.asp?id=115

Valiant
https://www.veltd.net/zencart/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=92d1d652246b65bdcc55b8329c981b33&keyword=Roman&x=0&y=0

I&R
http://www.imrierisleyminiatures.com/ancient

1/32 sets by Hat: I know nothing about this company
http://www.hat.com/current32.html




Smaller scale, sets:

Pegasus
http://www.imrierisleyminiatures.com/ancient/

Zvezda, Airfix and others make them, too.
mawelch74
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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 04:59 AM UTC
Thank you. This is helpful.

Honestly, I don't even know my choice in scale at this point, though my intention as I move ahead is to create dioramas. Not sure which scale is most fitting for this. It seems scale is pretty much all over the place, even if two different pieces state theare scale X or this many mms, and trying to figure much of it out has caused me quite a level of confusion.

I've also seen many different discussions regarding where one should start off in regard to scale. Some say get larger models, others say start small, which only adds more fuel to the confusion fire.

Part of me feels like I should simply buy a set of cheap, plastic miniatures and just start painting. I know I'll ruin several while I learn and I'd rather muck up cheap pieces than more expensive ones.
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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 12:15 PM UTC
I have only modeled a few miniatures, but here is my take on the whole situation.

Model what you like, and it will be so much better in the long run. If you are not sure, then take a guess! There is nothing worse that getting something that you are not so enthused with, only to stop partway through, and give up because you lost interest.

Secondly, scale is a matter of taste. While I may like a small scale, others flourish in the larger ones. You will have to find your own happiness in scale.

Third, remember that this is your hobby. You might like the a certain paint scheme for your Romans, but there are always those that will say that the troops footwear should have Nike instead of Addidas! I say that as long as you like it, then that is all that matters.

And last, no matter what, have fun.

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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 04:54 PM UTC
If you are considering doing 1/72 than look no further than the Plastic Soldier review website.
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Index.aspx

The site is even broken down by era so you can see all the 1/72 sets for Republican Rome.
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodList.aspx?period=3
mawelch74
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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 - 11:45 PM UTC
Thanks for the replies.

@damoore46 - All good suggestions. As someone with many a varied interest, the sentiment in each of your points is absolutely spot-on for pretty much anything one gets involved in. I just need to dive in and run with what I like.

@Bravo - Thanks for the links. I think I may have run across this site in my travels, but only looked at it briefly. I'll have another gander. I'm not certain that 1/72 is where I want to end up, but I think I'm going to buy a few different sizes and have at it. Never hurts to explore one's options.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 - 03:36 AM UTC
Hey Matt
I've been making and painting figurines for 40years and the only advice I offer is with regard to scale and your preferences.

If you wish to model a battle scene of a cast of thousands, where will you keep the base board ?
In this case think small and buy wargame style figures. These are available 4mm,15mm 28mm scale.
These sizes are designed to portray a mass on a gaming table.
If you wish to portray a small group, usually called a vignette of two or three figures you can buy in54mm,75mm,90mm,120mm.these are specemin figures and fit in collectors cabinets where you can paint more fine detail on the figure, more stylised poses, and they are more anatomicaly correct.
My collection is of all scales for different purposes.
On my desk right now is a figure almost *metre tall ! Obviously a one off. But I also have a 120mm figure watching a snall boy playing with a strip of 4mm figures because they are his toys !
Scale is always relative to your needs Chuck at www.redlancer.com has a lot to offer across the ranges.

Do not get hung up on 1/72nd,1/35th, 1/32nd,1/24th or 1/16th scales.shop in mms for figures it's easier and more reliable.
You can even put a small strip of tape marked off in these sizes against the side of your pc screen so if you like something you can glance across and decide if you need it that big or not
Please ignore the fraction scales unless a figure is going inside or on top of a vehicle or plane, that's when you need them. Those scales are for the guys who do plastic kits not us figurine 'Maestros'hahaha
It's not a moot point either so if you have any problem drop me a private message and I'll email you a conversion chart
Happy painting
Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 - 05:31 AM UTC
Hi Matt,

I concur not to get too hung up on scales yet. Here is a good description of model scales, comparing ratio, i.e., 1/72, 1/32, with size, i.e., 54mm, 90mm.

http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html

Since I've been trying to sort out scales for 40+ years, here is a thread about scales:

http://railroadmodeling.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=98196

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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2014 - 03:51 AM UTC
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.ca/2014/08/victrix-miniatures-plastic-republican.html
There's not much of a choice - wargaming 25 -28 mm, or 54mm. The figs I've linked to above are hard pastic, not soft, so they hold better detail and are easier to paint. These ones also look much better anatomically. Plus you get a whole bunch for what you would pay for one 54mm. If you plan on massing lots of figures 54mm will become VERY expensive (count on $30+ per figure) and a large dio base. In the close-up shots of the Victrix miniatures (above) they look to have almost as good detail as much larger scale figures at a fraction of the price.
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2014 - 03:14 AM UTC
Thanks for all the replies, folks. I think I've settled for the time being on 28mm as I can find a nice collection of differing figures in the range I'm looking for. I have a set of Zvedza 1/72 to work on while I wait for the 28mm that I'll be ordering to show up. Need to get some paints and appropriate brushes, then I can start. Sort of excited to paint my first mini.
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2014 - 10:19 AM UTC
Forgot about Zvezda! Their wargaming sets of 4 figures are actually about the best styrene 1/72 figures I've seen. Much better than soft plastic varieties.
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2014 - 03:33 PM UTC

Quoted Text

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.ca/2014/08/victrix-miniatures-plastic-republican.html
There's not much of a choice - wargaming 25 -28 mm, or 54mm. The figs I've linked to above are hard pastic, not soft, so they hold better detail and are easier to paint. These ones also look much better anatomically. Plus you get a whole bunch for what you would pay for one 54mm. If you plan on massing lots of figures 54mm will become VERY expensive (count on $30+ per figure) and a large dio base. In the close-up shots of the Victrix miniatures (above) they look to have almost as good detail as much larger scale figures at a fraction of the price.



I've run across these and like them a lot. I have some Zvezda 1/72 figures I'm going to work on to start, and have a set of Wargames Factory 28mm Caesaer's Legions on the way. Next purchase will be Victrix. I'm feeling like 28mm is where I want to be, with perhaps a foray into larger models as I get better.