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Washable White Paint
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 11:51 PM UTC
Roman Volchenkov tests washable white paint from AMMO of Mig Jimenez.

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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 11:59 PM UTC
So no hairspray or chipping medium needed.This seems like a much easier process.
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 12:29 AM UTC
that's true. you can also check this video from AMMO for comparison between chipping medium and washable paint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLJ_13AOFo
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 12:31 AM UTC
Hi Roman,

Looks interesting! You said you let it dry 10 minutes before attacking it with water, but have you gone back to it after a few days? Does it "harden up" over time, or is it still just as workable a day or a week later?
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 12:44 AM UTC
Seems that many of us are into whitewash camo these days . . .

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=231433&page=1#1950815
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 12:47 AM UTC
Tom, I was sealing it with matt coat afterwards to be sure that weathering will not disturb it. I haven't really tested if it hardens after some hours so that it is no longer affected by water as I usually have no time to wait
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 12:52 AM UTC
yeah, whitewash is one of the most attractive finishes.
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 02:04 AM UTC
Just as an FYI, some acrylics can be scrubbed fairly easily when they're fresh without needing a chipping medium, especially when thinned down more than normal. You won't get extreme chipping, but you can get some nicely controlled wear. Just be sure to lay down a clear coat and let that cure so the base coat doesn't get scrubbed out as well.

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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 04:47 AM UTC
Personally, for whitewashing, I find Pelikan Plaka the perfect médium. Dries in seconds and can be easily taken off with acrylic thinner. I don't see this as any major advance as there are many products out there which serve the same desired function.
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 02:32 PM UTC
Hi Jim

The main difference of this product with Pelikan one or others is that this Washable color is exactly the same composition and components tan the White paint used by Russian during the WWII, so...it give the modeller more provabilities to achieve the same effects and fading than the real tanks during the war. It react in the same way and managed it with wáter and a brush can produce the same look.

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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 03:04 PM UTC

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I don't see this as any major advance as there are many products out there which serve the same desired function.



no problem at all, this is your personal opinion. same as review I wrote is my personal opinion based on my experience during 2014. I finished a number of models and used this product on 7 of them.
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 03:10 PM UTC
@Roman, I very much appreciated your thoughts on it and the 'after' photos are also useful - it DOES look effective and realistic. However, moving away from the alternatives to this product, the size of the bottle might have served better if it was somewhat bigger?
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 03:47 PM UTC
Hmm, I don't know. Working in fine coats you don't need that much of it. Let's say on that T-72 hull I hardly used 0,4-0,5ml...
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2015 - 09:35 PM UTC
Nice, but how about a washable 'rust' version of this which I could dilute as I like, then seal with matte varnish would be handy hint, hint Jim ? And moss, rain/mud crud too ... ; )
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Posted: Monday, February 09, 2015 - 01:30 AM UTC
there are washable dust and mud paints available from AMMO as well. Just check their webste
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Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - 08:30 PM UTC
One problem with each new iteration of Mig and his work is the proliferation of the same items. I have quite a bit of the original MIG products, and since then there have been two other companies bringing out his brand. What is the difference? Just who gets the check? Or are the new AMMO products an improvement or otherwise different than what is already on the market from MIG and AK Interactive? I pose this question not to seem impertinent, but because we currently have a huge overlap of the same items from different vendors.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - 02:59 PM UTC
I don't think that MIG productions makes any acrylic paints.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - 09:48 PM UTC
Roman, that's right, but my point is simply that now there are all sorts of products originating from Mig Jimenez and it would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison of them so we can evaluate which ones are worth the money.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2015 - 12:52 AM UTC
I see. I think we don't have comparison reviews here. When it comes to actual selection I have most of the brands without overlapping. Ordering what I don't have when I see something that might be useful.
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Posted: Thursday, February 12, 2015 - 10:16 PM UTC
No, we don't do those sorts of reviews on Armorama, and I was not implying either we should or that this review is anything but very good as is. I was simply saying that Mig J now has three versions of his products out there with three different companies, and I'm sometimes bewildered by the overlap.
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2015 - 02:09 AM UTC
I know that there are lots of ways to get the white wash look and that everyone will have a preferred or cheap method, but this does look to be an easy product to use and get the right look. I do agree with the reply about the quantity as I always feel a little ripped off by these small bottles, just as I did when Tamiya shrunk their bottles. As such I wish a container size was selected and stuck to, and I would hope they select the larger container rather than the small one.
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2015 - 02:26 AM UTC
I don't know,Mig can do anything he wants product or company wise. I don't care how many companies he uses to put out products with.It just means more choices and options for us.I just read reviews and modelers experiences and make a choice.Others mix their own,so it don't matter to them.But I don't see it as a problem.
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Posted: Friday, February 13, 2015 - 07:43 PM UTC
Roman, great review, thank you. Bill, I agree with what you are trying to say here. In my younger years I had testors and floquil to choose from and then into the 90s I focused on Tamiya and Gunze with some Model Master stuff in there as well. After about an 8 year hiatus from the hobby I've gotten back into things last year and now Vallejo and all things Mig/AK have entered the market. All fantastic products but the one question that is always on my mind when I'm looking at finishing supplies is where is the "overlap" or similarities? Of course, the way through this is to buy and try...and that I have been doing. In the end, however, I'm glad to see so much in the market. In the end, that's good for us modelers/consumers.