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M270A1 MLRS
brian638
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 03:40 AM UTC
Brian O"Donoghue takes a look at the a recent release from Dragon this time it is the M270A1 MLRS.



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18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 04:06 AM UTC
While I agree with you that the tracks could have been upgraded, to me the larger fail is not upgrading the wheels. They're too large in diameter, and don't have the recesses behind the face, which nearly every other company has gotten the hang of by now.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 04:43 AM UTC
A very welcomed reissue. The A1 parts will make for a nice, updated version. The tracks are easily updated w/the AFV Club M2 Bigfoot tracks. The roadwheels look the part to me. If you want to change them, Legend makes a pretty good set.
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 04:49 AM UTC
I have several of the Legend sets, and yes they are good, but the point is, an "upgraded" kit shouldn't necessitate the purchase of them. Hell, they could have even worked a co-operative deal (as companies have done in the past) with Meng and offered their Bradley wheels. Ultimately cheaper than retooling.

Of course, it's all moot, for those who have read my other post on this kit...
bilbobee
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2015 - 03:46 AM UTC
Yes brian i agree with your review, I have one and when I opened the kit and seen the tracks I was surprised, to say the lease. I will not buy a dragon kit with DS tracks. It seems to me dragon is doing alot of re-issues with ds, and old parts. where other brands are coming out with workable tracks with their kits. Dragon was a leader without a doubt. But my question...is dragon just using their name and not what should be in the box?
mpeplinski
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 01:26 AM UTC

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Dragon was a leader without a doubt. But my question...is dragon just using their name and not what should be in the box?




I think Dragon is/was resting on it's laurels and it's bit them.It's almost as if all their engineers and CAD operators jumped ship and went on to other companies?Could explain the new companies and products being released.

My 2 cents adjusted for inflation......

Mike
brian638
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 02:32 AM UTC
I think that this was a lazy release,they could have included an older set of decals and at least given the option of other nations. I built the Orange Box Abrams (IFOR/USMC) version it was a dog of a kit with only a few additions.

I think that Dragon can still produce a few stunning kits unfortunately they are mainly variations on existing German armour. I really wish that they had upgraded the tracks as this would have made a great addition.
DLDC_Sims_Guy
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2016 - 07:45 PM UTC
I detest this model. The sprue attachment points and ejector marks are absolutely horrid and make no sense at all. Because of these, I had to switch from a detailed interior to a buttoned-up and firing pose. I have had to do tons of cleaning, and that's just on the doors and window shields. Sure, there is detail, but at what cost? This model is in serious need of a re-tooling. I gave it a 60%, and that was being generous. I build a great many modern armor and arty, and this, by far, is the worst kit I've had the displeasure of opening in a couple of years. Even worse that any Zvezda kit I've done.
Petition2God
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 - 05:44 AM UTC

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I detest this model. The sprue attachment points and ejector marks are absolutely horrid and make no sense at all. Because of these, I had to switch from a detailed interior to a buttoned-up and firing pose. I have had to do tons of cleaning, and that's just on the doors and window shields. Sure, there is detail, but at what cost? This model is in serious need of a re-tooling. I gave it a 60%, and that was being generous. I build a great many modern armor and arty, and this, by far, is the worst kit I've had the displeasure of opening in a couple of years. Even worse that any Zvezda kit I've done.



Wow, good thing that I stayed away from this kit.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 - 07:16 AM UTC
Good thing Merit has a MLRS announced so we don't have to suffer with this sub-2000 quality trash any more.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 - 07:35 AM UTC
^ Just a bit over-dramatic. Sure it is an older kit, but it is not that bad of a kit. With a little TLC, it can come out looking great. I have built a bunch of these over the years and they can be great with a little work.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 - 08:50 AM UTC

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^ Just a bit over-dramatic. Sure it is an older kit, but it is not that bad of a kit. With a little TLC, it can come out looking great. I have built a bunch of these over the years and they can be great with a little work.



Ha, no. The original kit was good around it's 1992 release date, but this release is shockingly basic and outdated compared to modern kits in the same $60 price range even if you ignore the terrible casting flaws Curt pointed out.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 - 08:54 PM UTC
Whatever. Guess it comes down to how much effort you actually want to put into a build. Not every kit is going to fall together as you shake the box. Some actually take a little modeling skill. I'm sure the forth-coming Merit one will be better, but until it arrives, this one is a very buildable kit and can come out looking great when done. Like I said, it just takes a little effort.