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SAS & Jeep
DaveCox
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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2005 - 09:27 PM UTC
Completed entry for 'Quiet Professionals'. Italeri jeep with a mixture of Dragon and 'Bitsa' figures. The ruined bookstore is from Synergy, a Canadian company that was around in the 1990s. The front gunner is about to chane a mag on the right hand 'K'gun, and the rear gunner is looking for snipers in buildings across the street. I've also added empty .303 cases from gold painted stretched sprue, but they don't show up too well in the pics. More in my gallery.




mondo
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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2005 - 09:35 PM UTC
Good work on the jeep. It's the Italeri kit right. I only know the Tamiya one. I'm actually making it now.
DaveCox
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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2005 - 09:39 PM UTC

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Good work on the jeep. It's the Italeri kit right. I only know the Tamiya one. I'm actually making it now.



The Tamiya kit is better, but to make it as an SAS jeep you would need a load of aftermarket bits, whereas the Italeri "Commando car" has all the guns etc in the kit. Some of the stowage is from the spares box, just to make mine a little different from the kit.
Pedro
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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:13 PM UTC
Nice jeep and figures!
I have only 2 concerns about it:
When there was jerry can on the fender then they didnt use jerry can holder, just a single horizontal strap. Also I don't know if they put jerrycans on the fenders of european pattern jeeps. Second thing is that berets on the figures seem to be a bit shiny.
Other than that you've done very good job Dave!

Cheers
Pedro
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 01:02 AM UTC
I just woke up some I may be a little groggy on the brain right now but I have a question about the figures outside the jeep. They all have their weapons pointed at the jeep. It seems to me more like they captured the jeep.
DaveCox
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 01:07 AM UTC
I have problems with my flat varnish, whatever brand I try seems to be more like semi-gloss! hence the shine on the berets, that and a fill-in spotlamp.

The other figures are about to 'leap-frog' the jeep, so they aren't actually pointing their weapons at it.
Tarok
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:30 AM UTC
Dave

That looks great!

I love the "Bitsa" figures!

Easy_Co
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:56 AM UTC
Great work Dave I hope to make that kit soon, Just one Techy question re the red beret did the S.A.S. not have the beige Beret then? not a critque just a question, not too sure of my history there was a docu on the history channel the other night showed that vehicle in action very interesting.
DaveCox
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 09:18 AM UTC

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Great work Dave I hope to make that kit soon, Just one Techy question re the red beret did the S.A.S. not have the beige Beret then? not a critque just a question, not too sure of my history there was a docu on the history channel the other night showed that vehicle in action very interesting.



I haven't found any documentary evidence for the beret colour, except that when the SAS was first formed by David Stirling they were para trained issued with the 'Red Beret'. Dragon's instructions show the beret that colour so I used it.

Thanks for the comments guys.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 01:03 PM UTC
Great little scene Dave. The building looks great and the rubble used is ideal to show the damage but still see the base. Your camo on the denisons, and the leather jacket of the seargent all look great. Its a pity about the shiny finish though.
I used model master lacquer and it gave great results but kept going lumpy after using a few times, then I tried Humbrols new matt cote .... in the little square bottle. This stuff is excellent .. I swear by it. I spray it on thinned with humbrols own thinner, but dont know how it would brush on ... never tried it! I stirred the bottle the first few times .... now I just give it a good shaking. Never lets me down. Humbrols matt cote in the little tins is rubbish ... I always had the problem you have here, no matter how much I stirred it.
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 01:10 PM UTC
Great work there Dave. The scene is very eye catching. Congrats. Kevin
DaveCox
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Posted: Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 06:00 PM UTC

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Great little scene Dave. The building looks great and the rubble used is ideal to show the damage but still see the base.
I tried Humbrols new matt cote .... in the little square bottle. This stuff is excellent .. I swear by it.



Thanks again for the compliments

Frank, all that rubble etc is cast onto the base and building parts, it was designed and mastered by Grant McIntosh who used to be a member here. Sold as a 'dio in a box'.
Thanks for the tip on the new Humbrol matt coat - I have some of the older type but will try the new one when I can get hold of some.
Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 02:05 AM UTC

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the red beret did the S.A.S. not have the beige Beret then?


Berets were issued to certain units. The best-known were the black of the RAC, the green of the Commandos, the maroon of Airborne Forces, and the khaki of the Recce Corps and Motor Battalions - the latter often being procured in preference to the beret-like Cap, General Service (dubbed 'Cap, Ridiculous') by any who could get away with it, particularly junior officers.

I don't think there were any hard and fast rules and regulations in the SAS about attire. As many members would have served with Airborne, it is likely that would have retained the maroon beret out of pride.

Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 02:09 AM UTC

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... Humbrols new matt cote .... in the little square bottle. This stuff is excellent .. I swear by it. I spray it on thinned with humbrols own thinner, but dont know how it would brush on ... never tried it! I stirred the bottle the first few times .... now I just give it a good shaking. Never lets me down. Humbrols matt cote in the little tins is rubbish ... I always had the problem you have here, no matter how much I stirred it.



Dave, I've gotta second Frank on the new Humbrol Matt Cote... the stuff is tons better than that rubbish Humbrol 49! I've hand brushed it on "neat" at had no problems...

DaveCox
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 03:27 AM UTC
[quoteDave, I've gotta second Frank on the new Humbrol Matt Cote... the stuff is tons better than that rubbish Humbrol 49! I've hand brushed it on "neat" at had no problems...

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Thanks Tarok, how does it react with oil paint washes? The reasoon I normally use acrylic varnish is to seal any finish against the white spirits used to thin the washes.
Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 07:11 AM UTC
Dave,

I had some white streaks occuring, but that was probably due to me not giving the matt cote sufficient time to cure properly before applying my washes... as they say... less haste, more speed...

Rudi
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 08:05 AM UTC

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how does it react with oil paint washes? The reasoon I normally use acrylic varnish is to seal any finish against the white spirits used to thin the washes.


If humbrols have 48 hours to cure, thinners will not lift them ... I use humbrols own thinners and never had a problem.
You could still use your acrlyic cote before washes and only matt cote when washes and all are finished. This would probably be better anyway, as washes, and especially oil washes, can sometimes leave a shine as well.
Danial
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 02:37 PM UTC
hmm...the models looks like its from dragon...is it?
btw, its brilliant...
DaveCox
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 05:00 PM UTC

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hmm...the models looks like its from dragon...is it?
btw, its brilliant...



The figures are mostly Dragon, with some Tamiya parts as well, but the jeep is from Italeri. Sold as a' Commando Car'.

Thanks for the compliment.
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Posted: Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 12:23 AM UTC
SAS berets were initialy white when 'L' Detachment was formed - this quickly changed to sand (possibly 'cos the white ones got too dirty :-) ). They stayed sand with the move into Italy and the Adriatic (and the absorbsion of the SBS). In early 1944 the SAS Regiments were all brought under the Airborne Forces and so were ordered to change to maroon berets (many old sweats ignored this and carried on wearing their sand berets until demob).

21 SAS carried on with the maroon beret after the war, as did the newly raised 22 SAS when it was formed from the Malayan Scouts. All three (UK) SAS Regiments (along with their support elements) changed back to the sand beret in 1960 or 1961.